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re: America (Dinesh DSouza) has a 0% from top critics on RT
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:13 pm to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:13 pm to Pilot Tiger
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well....he's in prison for breaking campaign finance laws
No, he's not.
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he claims he knows everything about Obama despite never even meeting or talking to the guy
He gets all of his information directly from Obama himself, via his many books, and Obama's many associates. It's called inference and is an important skill to have when critical thinking is involved.
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he's just a total sleezebag, his movie sucks, he sucks, the end
I think you are just an Obama fanboy that doesn't like Barry getting talked bad about. Again, have you seen the movie, or any of his movies?
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:13 pm to Pilot Tiger
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and dsouza is a hack of the highest order
I can't comment on this movie, but that POV regarding Dinesh is absolutely true.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:27 pm to Cosmo
My wife and I are going to see the movie tonight. I like Dinesh D'Souza. He comes across as well measured and courageous and is not a hack by any stretch. Currently the thugs at the IRS are after both Dinesh and his business partner. That kind of political abuse and hubris should draw the ire of every American regardless of where you stand on the political spectrum.
The man reimbursed two campaign contributions and for that he was tracked down like a dog. How many millions did John Huang funnel to the Clintons?
The man reimbursed two campaign contributions and for that he was tracked down like a dog. How many millions did John Huang funnel to the Clintons?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:29 pm to Jay Quest
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Hell, being attacked by the Obama administration is a badge of honor. There was little doubt this corrupt administration would sic its attack dogs on D'Souza after 2008. They got him on the most ridiculous charges imaginable. The Clintons do worse every day.
and you just gave the exact reason why the audience scores are so high.
people watching the movie already agree with whatever it says and dont give two shits about it being factually accurate or well made.
"Hey guys! This movie says Obama sucks arse. It also says Merica rocks the world's fricking face off w/pure awesomeness!!! Best movie evarrrrr!!!"
Hell, its the same reason a movie like God Is Not Dead got good reviews from audiences even though its barely a Lifetime quality production. Religious folk went in wanting to hear a specific message, got it, and were happy about it.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:31 pm to Scruffy
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his last movie was such blatant propaganda
Hold up.
Wasn't most of his last movie Obama's own voice reading Obama's own book?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:33 pm to RidiculousHype
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Obama's own voice reading Obama's own book?
I didn't see it, but I imagine that does qualify as propaganda.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:34 pm to RidiculousHype
quote:Not that I remember.
Wasn't most of his last movie Obama's own voice reading Obama's own book?
I only saw it once and remember cringing constantly.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:34 pm to Dr RC
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and you just gave the exact reason why the audience scores are so high. people watching the movie already agree with whatever it says and dont give two shits about it being factually accurate or well made.
No where in my post did I say I agreed with a thing this movie professes. I did say I despise how this administration attacks its enemies. If D'Souza's assertions aren't accurate I would never defend a half truth or outright lie.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:35 pm to Jay Quest
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No where in my post did I say I agreed with a thing this movie professes. I did say I despise how this administration attacks its enemies. If D'Souza's assertions aren't accurate I would never defend a half truth or outright lie.
I never said you did.
I said that you gave the exact reason why this flick has high audiences scores.
But, if you want to get into it... Since you said attacking Obama should be a badge of honor, I can infer that you would likely lap up whatever DD says in the film regardless of the fact that he often takes long leaps in logic to get to his point.
Like was said in this thread already, if you dont like Micheal Moore b/c you think he is a spin doctor you shouldnt like DD either.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:36 pm to Dr RC
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Dr RC
Again, have you seen it? Have you seen any of his movies?
I know you haven't, neither has Pilot Tiger. I've watched 2016. After i watched it i researched some of what he was talking about. Nearly everything he said was in Obama's books. The stuff that was not in his books, like his grandfather's afiliations, his father and mother being hugely anti-colonialism radicals, and how Obama was brought up are all factually true, based on FBI reports, and writings by these people.
If you don't believe me, watch 2016 and then do some research for yourself. Obama never hid who he was. But the media was too caught up in electing the first black president, that they never stopped to look to see exactly who he was, nor did many care, as they shared the same thoughts.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:39 pm to Dr RC
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I said that you gave the exact reason why this flick has high audiences scores
But that assumes everyone seeing the film is given to mindless partisanship. I don't believe that to be the case here. D'Souza's assertions aren't being attacked or debunked by the left. All attacks are directed at the man himself.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:40 pm to Pilot Tiger
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and dsouza is a hack of the highest order
That depends on the subject matter. He does go full retard re: Obama and some social conservatism
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:40 pm to Cosmo
I'll just wait for it to be on Netflix in few weeks like 2016 Obama's America was.
Judging by some of the stories from folks that went to actually see this in the cinema, I would have been embarrassed to be sitting in a theater with folks like that.
Judging by some of the stories from folks that went to actually see this in the cinema, I would have been embarrassed to be sitting in a theater with folks like that.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:41 pm to Pilot Tiger
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seriously, if you think Michael Moore is a hack, then you should think DSouza is
I dont think that is in question. Here is a question though - when is the last time a Michael Moore film received a 0% critic score?
I think the OP was more about the hypocrisy of the score, not the merit of the film maker.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:41 pm to Dr RC
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if you dont like Micheal Moore b/c you think he is a spin doctor you shouldnt like DD either.
If you don't like one you can't like the other is a foolish thing to say without further critical comparisons of each.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:42 pm to jcole4lsu
I just have a problem with a world where this movie gets a 0% but a movie that involves raping a baby to death is "terrifying art" and gets a 44%.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:43 pm to BugAC
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Have you seen any of his movies?
No, but I've seen him in numerous debates and I've yet to see him not make an arse out of himself. To be honest, these were primarily religious in nature...maybe he's slightly less terrible when it comes to politics.
I remain skeptical.
But given what he's said in the debates I've seen him in, I'd be as likely to spend money going to see a Kirk Cameron - Ray Comfort Flick as I would anything by Dinesh.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:47 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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To be honest, these were primarily religious in nature...maybe he's slightly less terrible when it comes to politics.
Yeah he's good talking macro econ and being pro capitalism
Hes an absolute nut about obama or jesus
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:51 pm to jcole4lsu
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I dont think that is in question. Here is a question though - when is the last time a Michael Moore film received a 0% critic score?
I think the OP was more about the hypocrisy of the score, not the merit of the film maker.
b/c Moore for all his faults is a better filmmaker?
he at least adds some humor to his agenda driven films.
Also, its not true that America has a 0% on RT. It currently has 11% and has only even been reviewed by 18 people which indicates they didnt even screen it for critics.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:51 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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But given what he's said in the debates I've seen him in, I'd be as likely to spend money going to see a Kirk Cameron - Ray Comfort Flick as I would anything by Dinesh.
I won't go to the movies to see it either. I'll do like i did with 2016 and catch it on Netflix. I save my movie trips for movies i really want to see. I really won't go to the movies to see any documentary.
But i did watch 2016 and it wasn't the "lies" that Dr RC says it is.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:54 pm
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