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Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Smokedawg
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:12 am to
quote:

- Ward getting no shot at redemption
Loved this part, I was worried they were going to let him back in
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:13 am to
quote:

I was pissed at the thought of an even stronger Garrett somehow surviving, but the complete nonchalance of which Coulson took him out had me


I was saying, oh we have our Villain for.... then poof.

I had to rewind it a couple of times.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69141 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:16 am to
quote:

- Agent Koening II


Is he a clone?

I doubt an android, but something tells me there is one of him at every base now.
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3508 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:24 am to
quote:

- How is Fitz?


I thought for sure Simmons was going to give it up to Fitz, he then has a memory loss and they would spend all next season with her trying to get him to remember their connection.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36590 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:46 am to
quote:

- How is Fitz?


Fitz probably has a nasty case of the bends.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Ward getting no shot at redemption


quote:

Loved this part, I was worried they were going to let him back in


I agree that the writers handled the Ward situation very well. I'm guessing that Skye will pay him a visit in prison at some point next season looking for answers about her parentage.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58099 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:22 am to
quote:



Is he a clone?

I doubt an android, but something tells me there is one of him at every base now.



at first I thought it was just the (twin) brother Koening I was talking about playing COD online with but then Koening II didn't seem extremely broken up about KI's death and pretty much repeated word for word what KI said about lanyards and stuff when the team landed at the first secret base.

Maybe they could be clones or maybe they are just weird arse twins that are eerily similar in every way.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70395 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:32 am to
LMD is being thrown around pretty liberally on other sites as a possible explanation.

I'm not really all that concerned with his origin, I just enjoy the character. I'm not really expecting them to get too deep on it.

Unless they want to use him to introduce the idea of the LMD, then you'll probably see him pop up at every secret base they go to in Season 2.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22385 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:51 am to
LMD?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70395 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:53 am to
Life Model Decoy. A SHIELD device from the comics that allows characters to cheat death.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:02 pm to
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What's up with that diagram Coulson was working on?


I'm guessing it's something written in Kree's language? In an earlier episode, Ward sees the same type of writings on a chalk board in a Russian lab. I think Garrett drew the same symbols in another episode. So maybe the blue serum connected their minds to the Supreme Intelligence? Possibly a formula for something?
Posted by BrightsideTiger412
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
1710 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:22 pm to
really good episode- this tv series went from having no identity in the first part, to having a pretty damn good story in the second part.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80379 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:41 pm to
Here are some crackpot theories:

-The Inhumans have to be a part of this at some point. Not only does that tie into Quicksilver's appearance in the MCU (his wife in the comics is Crystal, cousin to Black Bolt), but it lends credence to the rumors of an Inhumans film in Phase 3. Not only that, but the Inhumans are a Kree experiment.

-Skye's father is Maximus the Mad, an Inhuman with telepathic abilities and a major villain in the Inhuman storyline. In the comics, it never goes into whether or not he has children.

-Skye is Mantis, a character whose parents were never identified by name but whose father used the alias "Brandt".

-Dum Dum Dugan is the continuity between Agent Carter and Agents of SHIELD. This introduces the Infinity Formula.

-At some point, the Defenders are formed/come into play and there is crossover between the show and the Netflix series.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15111 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:42 pm to
I was literally ready to give up on the series up until the episodes that correlated with the Winter Solder movie. Since they hyped the show being linked to the movie, I figured I'd give it until after I saw the movie. I'm glad I gave it that last shot.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80379 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:43 pm to
Considering how long it takes to get some shows off the ground in season 1, maybe they were banking on it all along.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58099 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 1:01 pm to
true.

and while there is an argument to be made that they could have done a better job early on, its not like it was ever as bad as some vocal critics made it out to be.

hell, I think season one of AOS was pretty much equal to Arrow (the first half of that show was basically a soap) and look how bad arse that show became in season 2.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Here are some crackpot theories:


Another I've seen is that the Skrull are involved, thus setting up the Kree-Skrull War or Secret Invasion. The Skrull are in cahoots with Hydra and some of the characters you think you know, are actually Skrull.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80379 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 1:18 pm to
The danger with Marvel integrating the Skrull too much is that they are HEAVILY involved with the Fantastic Four, especially the Super-Skrull.
Posted by BrightsideTiger412
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
1710 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 1:22 pm to
Most new shows not on HBO or FX follow a pretty simple guideline.


Introduce Characters
Introduce Problem
Characters fix problem

Rinse and repeat. They don't build on anything and people lose interest fast.

Agents of Shield, kind of started out that way. Arrow kind of started out that way. But if you keep the audience watching for more than 4-6 episodes, you can build on the story. They finally gave us a villain for more than 1 episode. Marvel/ABC did a really good job of saving the show.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15111 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

hell, I think season one of AOS was pretty much equal to Arrow (the first half of that show was basically a soap) and look how bad arse that show became in season 2.

The problem with the 1st half season of AoS was that it lacked direction, other than Coulson basically babysitting a bunch of newbies. Arrow had direction from the first episode of season one (redeeming his dad's list). I mean the guy was basically going on a killing spree the first half of season 1.
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