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re: 2001 and A Clockwork Orange
Posted on 7/12/10 at 10:47 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 7/12/10 at 10:47 am to CocomoLSU
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it's awesome how much Kubrick and his team stayed true to actual science and realism in that regard
Kubrick and Clarke worked very closely for at least a year on adapting the novel as best as possible. With all movies there were some changes, like instead of Jupiter being the target planet for "the signal" in the novel it was Saturn. The silence of space is deafening, and is used to stunning effect in the movie. Only human breath is heard in most of the shots outside the Discovery, highlighting man's isolation in the most dangerous of all frontiers.
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Posted on 7/12/10 at 10:49 am to CocomoLSU
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lso, there was a thread on here about a month ago that someone had posted a link in, and it was a link to a little series of flash videos that seemed to do a pretty good job of explaining 2001.
Might as well post it for those who don't know what he is talking about:
LINK
Posted on 7/12/10 at 10:52 am to Geauxldineye
I thought the monoliths seemed somewhat out of place in the movie. I get what they signified, and it makes sense. But I dunno, I just thought the whole "solid black rectangle giving intelligence and opening creative thinking for certain species" thing seemed kinda out of place for some reason. I guess that was an easy way of having the "alien" aspect without actually having to use aliens though.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 10:58 am to CocomoLSU
the monolith is really just a placeholder. It's representation is arbitrary to an extent. They based it on simple mathematical formula. It's widely considered that mathematics is the basic "language of the universe/intelligent being" 1:4:9 is a perfect representation being that it's one of the fundamental basis for math, the squares of 1:2:3
The physical representation fits that idea perfectly.
The physical representation fits that idea perfectly.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:07 am to CocomoLSU
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The movie effects still stand up some 40 years later.
I think this every time I see it.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:09 am to CTexTiger
The brilliance of 2001 is explained by this thread. We are still discussing it 40 years later.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:10 am to CTexTiger
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The brilliance of 2001 is explained by this thread. We are still discussing it 40 years later.
The movie itself is, in fact, the monolith.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:12 am to CTexTiger
The clean up job on the 2001 Blu Ray is exemplary. It's a treat watching it in HD
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:13 am to Geauxldineye
If you want to see where the idea for the story started, read Arthur C. Clarke's short story "The Sentinel"
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:15 am to Freauxzen
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The movie itself is, in fact, the monolith.
Eh, I think that's a little much. But I see where you're coming from.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:39 am to CocomoLSU
Did you know the name given to HAL is a direct call out of IBM?
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:41 am to rondo
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Did you know the name given to HAL is a direct call out of IBM?
I think that I read an interview somewhere with Clarke where he said that the letters HAL being related to IBM was purely coincidental.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:43 am to Geauxldineye
That is a pretty big coincidence
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:43 am to Geauxldineye
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Although it is often conjectured that the name HAL was based on a one-letter shift from the name IBM, this has been denied by both Clarke and 2001 director Stanley Kubrick.[1] In 2010: Odyssey Two, Clarke speaks through the character of Dr. Chandra, who characterized this idea as: "[u]tter nonsense! [...] I thought that by now every intelligent person knew that H-A-L is derived from Heuristic ALgorithmic".[2][3]
from wikipedia
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:47 am to CocomoLSU
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Eh, I think that's a little much. But I see where you're coming from.
Just my personal take on the film, a less neat and tidy way to look at it.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 11:48 am to Freauxzen
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As is clearly stated in the novel (Chapter 16), HAL stands for Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer. However, about once a week some character spots the fact that HAL is one letter ahead of IBM, and promptly assumes that Stanley and I were taking a crack at the estimable institution ... As it happened, IBM had given us a good deal of help, so we were quite embarrassed by this, and would have changed the name had we spotted the coincidence.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 1:21 pm to Geauxldineye
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Just my personal take on the film, a less neat and tidy way to look at it.
Have you seen Rob Ager's analysis that goes into that somewhat? Pretty interesting.
Posted on 7/12/10 at 1:27 pm to smokeswithwolves
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Kubrick's best film Paths of Glory
+1
Posted on 7/12/10 at 1:28 pm to smokeswithwolves
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Have you seen Rob Ager's analysis that goes into that somewhat? Pretty interesting.
F-ing weird. Those are pretty much my thoughts put far more eloquently. And I had never seen that before
This post was edited on 7/12/10 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 7/12/10 at 1:40 pm to Freauxzen
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Have you seen Rob Ager's analysis that goes into that somewhat? Pretty interesting.
great find
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