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re: You're starting a franchise. Choose one: Prime LeBron or Prime Shaq

Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51672 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:33 pm to
you take the big man 10/10 times.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202938 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:34 pm to
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I answered with the fact that it's impressive he's still playing at this leave in season 17.


OK. But that LEVEL has fallen off. 17 seasons doesn't mean shite to me. Without SHAQ Kobe has TWO titles.And didn't LEAD his team to 6 titles in 8 years and there is no telling had MJ not retired the first time that it would not have been 8 for 8.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57317 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:37 pm to
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his team to 6 titles in 8 years and there is no telling had MJ not retired the first time that it would not have been 8 for 8.


The worship of the false god continues. Pippen was the real driver of those teams. Jordan was just the lap dog that got to stick his head out the window and let his tongue wag.

Jordan never had a winning season without Pippen. That fact will never change.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278410 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:39 pm to
shite man, you ruin every basketball thread. frick off
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52791 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:39 pm to
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Pippen was the real driver of those teams. Jordan was just the lap dog that got to stick his head out the window and let his tongue wag.




Why do people, after all these years on the MSB, still seriously argue with this guy?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57317 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:40 pm to
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shite man, you ruin every basketball thread. frick off


Stop arguing stupid brainwashed shite over and over
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31927 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:41 pm to
I generally agree with the take the big man angle, but Lebron is a once in a generation player, he bucks all the rules
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:41 pm to
Lebron for longevity and game closing reasons. I also think he'd be more likely to carry a bad franchise due to his passing.

Prime Shaq was ridiculous though
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57317 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:42 pm to
Prime Lebron and old Shaq won nada.

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202938 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:43 pm to
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The worship of the false god continues. Pippen was the real driver of those teams. Jordan was just the lap dog that got to stick his head out the window and let his tongue wag.



WOW. I forget that you have kobes dick in your mouth. You sure you aren't that chick from the motel?????

Anyway. Pippen was a great help to Kobe and A TOP THREE defender of all-time. BUT What happened in 2004???? And how did L.A beat the Kings in 2002????
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:50 pm to
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Why do people, after all these years on the MSB, still seriously argue with this guy?

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202938 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:53 pm to
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I generally agree with the take the big man angle, but Lebron is a once in a generation player, he bucks all the rules


People win titles BECAUSE OF SHAQ. BRON had to go FIND one.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36115 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:54 pm to
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Why do people, after all these years on the MSB, still seriously argue with this guy?



he's deserved the tim taylor treatment for months if not years, time to just start giving it to him
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32683 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:00 pm to
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I generally agree with the take the big man angle, but Lebron is a once in a generation player, he bucks all the rules

Shaq in his heyday was a once in a ever player. Seriously looked like he was playing with children.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72653 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:06 pm to
shaq without adoubt. a big guy like that gives you rim protection, rebounds and scoring down low on the block. you build around those guys as they are hard to come by now as we see.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31927 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:10 pm to
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Shaq in his heyday was a once in a ever player. Seriously looked like he was playing with children.



I can agree with that
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
9686 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:26 pm to
KOBE
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34901 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:31 pm to
Was Kobe ever definitively the best player in the league? I'm really not sure.

Prime Shaq for my team. I remember thinking how unfair it was watching him dominate, like he was playing in a YMCA league or something.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:35 pm to
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Was Kobe ever definitively the best player in the league? I'm really not sure.



He was. The window in which his best player in the L status was unquestionable is shorter than some of his fans would argue though IMHO.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34901 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:42 pm to
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The window in which his best player in the L status was unquestionable is shorter than some of his fans would argue though IMHO.



I think the problem is that when he was the best player in the league he was on an awful team and conducted himself like a raging a-hole. (didn't make teammates better, bitched for a trade, etc.)
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