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You want expansion? You HAD expansion

Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:02 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:02 am
Before money took over amateur sports, before the BCS BS, college football had the best playoff system in sports - AND THAT'S WHY COLLEGE FOOTBALL WAS KING!

You want expansion? Pre-BCS we had a 130-team playoff. You can't expand anymore than that. Every game counted in a 10 and then 11-game schedule, until the teams were whittled down to a handful going into bowl season.

This is why college football used to be king. It had the best playoff format already built-in. There was one spectacular day in which 2, 3, 4, or maybe 5 teams were playing with a chance to win a national championship. Guess what, there were no opt outs...NONE.

This is likely how the bowls would have played out pre-BCS....

Sugar – No. 1 Alabama vs No. 5 Notre Dame
Cotton – No. 6 Baylor vs. No. 3 Georgia
Rose – No. 2 Michigan vs. No. 10 Utah
Orange – No. 13 Pitt vs. No. 4 Cincinnati

No less than 5 teams have a chance to win the natty on college sports biggest day of the year depending on how everything plays out.

College football used to be king because it already had the best playoff system in sports. It was king because every game counted and New Year's Day was the best day in sports.

The BCS was the beginning of the end and paved the way to what we have today, a watered down version. And you folks who want to expand on that dilution, well, you're going to get your way. The BCS was set up to ease us into a playoff that was meant to expand beyond just 4 teams.

So you'll get your watered down version and the regular season will be as ignored as the NFL's.
Congratulations?

#inbeforegetoffmylawn
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Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:14 am to


I can only point and laugh at Brandons who believe that anything new is progress.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:15 am to
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Brandons
shocker
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:15 am to
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College football used to be king because it already had the best playoff system in sports. It was king because every game counted and New Year's Day was the best day in sports
Usually it was about 3 teams that had a shot and that really depended on media who played favorites. Settling it on the field in a playoff is superior in every way.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 12:16 am
Posted by ExpertTestimony
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:17 am to
When was 1998 Tulane eliminated from this 130 team playoff?

Or 2004 Auburn?

Or 1994 Penn State?

Or 2004 Utah?

Or 2008 Utah?

Or 2006 Boise?

Or 2017 UCF?

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:20 am to
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College football used to be king because it already had the best playoff system in sports. It was king because every game counted and New Year's Day was the best day in sports



Usually it was about 3 teams that had a shot and that really depended on media who played favorites.
Who do you think chose the 4 teams for the playoffs? That's right, human beings who played favorites. Nothing changed there.

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Settling it on the field in a playoff is superior in every way.
Spoiler Alert:

THEY

ALREADY

PLAYED
Posted by ChiGator
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:20 am to
Lol that shite was retarded. There were so many years where the best teams did not play each other. College footballs systems have always been broken no matter what they have tried. But at the end of the day, we as fans love everything else about the sport because we are a nation that’s batshit obsessed with football.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 12:21 am
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:26 am to
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Who do you think chose the 4 teams for the playoffs? That's right, human beings who played favorites. Nothing changed there
But they play each other, not some 6th or 8th ranked team who has no championship on the line.
quote:

THEY

ALREADY

PLAYED
And they can play again for the championship.

Oh wait, you'd rather see Alabama vs Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 12:29 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:36 am to
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When was 1998 Tulane eliminated from this 130 team playoff?

Or 2004 Auburn?

Or 1994 Penn State?

Or 2004 Utah?

Or 2008 Utah?

Or 2006 Boise?

Or 2017 UCF?
When they didn't do enough over the 10, 11, 12-game playoff that was built-in. That's why every single game mattered. That's why nobody opted out.

Besides, if you thought that 2017 UCF had any chance against either Alabama or Georgia, then you don't really pay that much attention to college football. They had less of a chance than Cincinnati did against Alabama. Anyone with a functioning brain could have seen that coming. And that isn't even one of the better Alabama teams over the last decade.

I'm not saying the old way of doing things was perfect, but it was what made college football so popular. It is quickly turning into a boring version of NFL-lite.
Posted by DawgHorns
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:40 am to
I'm sure the bowl games were more exciting back then back that was a terrible method of finding a national champion. No 1 vs. 2 matchup, just a random assortment of the good teams and the title goes to whoever has the most media hype.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:42 am to
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This is why college football used to be king. It had the best playoff format already built-in. There was one spectacular day in which 2, 3, 4, or maybe 5 teams were playing with a chance to win a national championship. Guess what, there were no opt outs...NONE.


Yep

Sugar, Rose, Orange, Cotton...determined the outcome of the Final vote. #1 would be playing #4 in the Rose, #2 would be playing #7 in the Orange.

He'll Bama claims a MNC because they were #4 heading into the bowls and everyone ahead of them lost.

Miami won a Natty as a #5 heading their bowl game because they beat #1 Nebraska and #2 lost their bowl game.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 12:43 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:43 am to
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THEY

ALREADY

PLAYED




And they can play again for the championship.
What if the team that won the first time, loses the second time? (BTW, that's exactly what has happened every time there's been a rematch). Shouldn't they have to play again to break the tie? Maybe they should play 3 out of 5? How many times do you think they should have to play before a champion is determined?

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Oh wait, you'd rather see Alabama vs Notre Dame.
Oh wait, you'd rather the regular season not count.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:55 am to
Mel Kiper deserves a big portion of the blame for his constant shilling for an NFL lite college playoff.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 12:56 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:56 am to
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just a random assortment of the good teams and the title goes to whoever has the most media hype.

Not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying Alabama is better than Cincinnati because of media hype?
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:02 am to
If the regular season doesn’t count how do they pick the teams for the playoff?


I’ll wait.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:02 am to
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Mel Kiper deserves a big portion of the blame for his constant shilling for an NFL lite college playoff.
It's about money. It's ALWAYS about money. Greedy bastards saw the popularity in college football and figured out a way to squeeze as many dollars out of it as possible. It is of no consequence to them if they ruin the game. They're only interested in making as much money as quickly as possible.

It's a microcosm of this country really. This country is being pilfered and picked apart by greedy bastards who don't give a shite what happens to the carcass.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:03 am to
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Old man yells at cloud


That’s a legit response but honestly - another all SEC National Championship is a for sure, guaranteed nail in the coffin for whatever the frick we have now.

I personally can’t wait for an all SEC final four once we get to the 16 team playoff. Would anything be more fun than a Bama/Georgia/LSU/Florida playoff bracket in like 3, 4 years or so…?
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:08 am to
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Oh wait, you'd rather the regular season not count.


You only want the regular season to count for a select few teams. The irony of this is wild. Theyve already listed multiple undefeated teams who weren’t given any chance at being a national champion. You can’t base it off of schedule alone, those are set years in advance now. You can’t control how good your conference mates are, and have no say over who you play.

And there are some 1 loss teams who deserve that chance as well.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 1:13 am
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