Would Tyson have gone down as the greatest heavyweught ever if Cus hadn't died?

He would have dominated until he ran into Lennox.

I say yes

Easily. If that derailed train would have stayed on the tracks then there would be no argument

He would have dominated until he ran into Lennox.

Yeah, he wasn't beating Lennox. Or likely Holyfield, too, still. Riddick Bowe would probably have worked him as well. I loved Tyson, but he was a small heavyweight and wouldn't have fared well against the big, skilled guys who weren't intimidated by him.

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Possibly, have read Tyson's book Cus was a large stablizing force in his life, but he was dealing with a lot of issues. Even if Cus would have lived longer there is no telling if Tyson would have succumb to his issues.

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You talking about Iron Ambition? Was that good? Saw it in Barnes and Noble and was intrigued by it

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Yeah, he wasn't beating Lennox. Or likely Holyfield, too,

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Tyson with his head on straight vs Holyfield in say 1992 or 1993 would be awesome to see

Undisputed Truth,

My brother bought read and gave it to me. Deals with everything, first page he admits that he is an adultery, drug user, alcoholic, thief, mugger, etc. but "I did not rape Desiree Washington"

I still say prime Tyson is the GOAT.

I have to say no. I remember Tyson's ascent very well.

Cus was 77. Even if he had survived his bout of pneumonia, he wasn't going to be that long for the world. Tyson was a troubled youth, and even the constant control and mentoring of Cus couldn't keep him on the straight and narrow. The cycle of fame, money, and the broken man-child that Tyson was, was never going to be kept in check for very long, by anyone.

Mike said on e:60 he was relieved when he lost the title in Tokyo. He hated being champ because of all the pressure and publicity.