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Would Roger Maris get dominated in an "all time greats" baseball game?
Posted on 1/7/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 1/7/17 at 10:36 am
You look at his career stats and they're just not very good
He hit .260 for his career with only 275 hrs and 850 RBI in 12 years
He only hit over 30 hrs 3 times and over 40 once (1961)
He had over 100 RBI only 3 times
His 3 season of over 30 hrs and over 100 RBI (1960-1962) were all 3 in a lineup where he was hitting right before or right after Mickey Mantle which certainly helped his stats.
Maris was an average to above average major leaguer who had one great power season
He hit .260 for his career with only 275 hrs and 850 RBI in 12 years
He only hit over 30 hrs 3 times and over 40 once (1961)
He had over 100 RBI only 3 times
His 3 season of over 30 hrs and over 100 RBI (1960-1962) were all 3 in a lineup where he was hitting right before or right after Mickey Mantle which certainly helped his stats.
Maris was an average to above average major leaguer who had one great power season
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 10:40 am to Tiger1242
Well...yeah.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 10:43 am to Tiger1242
You mean season right? Singular baseball games are random as hell. A bench player from LSU could go 2-3 in a major league game if they're lucky enough to find the right holes or if the pitcher on the mound hangs a few breaking balls to them in the middle of the plate.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 10:57 am to Bench McElroy
Jesus fricking Christ dude it's a hypothetical thread, yea sure in a single game I could close my eyes and swing and get a hit off Randy Johnson, you know what I mean through don't be that guy
Posted on 1/7/17 at 11:06 am to Tiger1242
Who considers Maris an all time great?
Posted on 1/7/17 at 11:10 am to Tiger1242
Using my MSB detective skills it's obvious the dude was totes juicing for that '61 season.
Nobody has random jumps in stats like that! MSB SAYS IT SO IT MUST BE TRUE!
Nobody has random jumps in stats like that! MSB SAYS IT SO IT MUST BE TRUE!
Posted on 1/7/17 at 11:27 am to Tiger1242
Two-time AL MVP who lost a lot of power after breaking his wrist. Excellent fielder with a very good arm.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 11:30 am to Tiger1242
Well, he's not a HOFer so I'm pretty sure the all time greats are better than him. He had one great year in '61, a few good years, and was mostly an above average to average player in other years. You answered your own question in your post.
This post was edited on 1/7/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/7/17 at 12:21 pm to msudawg1200
At least '61 is up there for GOAT baseball movie
Posted on 1/7/17 at 12:49 pm to Tiger1242
My father was a big Maris fan. He said injuries and his treatment in New York held him back. Maris' personality was more suited for the Kansas City A's.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:28 am to Tiger1242
This is one of those Peak Value vs Career Value problems, discussed by Bill James at length.
Peak Roger Maris would do fine, career average Maris not so much.
Peak Roger Maris would do fine, career average Maris not so much.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:27 am to Tiger1242
He's the Sandy Koufax of hitters.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:50 am to Tiger1242
Was he am all time great, no. Hall of Famer, no
But he was a 7 time all-star, 2 time MVP, and from 1960-1968 he appeared in 7 World Series.
But he was a 7 time all-star, 2 time MVP, and from 1960-1968 he appeared in 7 World Series.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 12:53 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:20 pm to Tiger1242
No, he wouldn't be on the field.
As far as getting dominated, the only thing that matters would be the pitching.
He hit .324 against Jim Bunning, .275 against Early Wynn, .154 against Hoyt Wilhelm, .182 against Whitey Ford, .273 against Gaylord Perry, and .200 against Herb Score.
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If I didn't make any mistakes, those are the Hall of Famers he faced at least 20 times. So it's a mixed bag. The link is a complete head to head list.
As far as getting dominated, the only thing that matters would be the pitching.
He hit .324 against Jim Bunning, .275 against Early Wynn, .154 against Hoyt Wilhelm, .182 against Whitey Ford, .273 against Gaylord Perry, and .200 against Herb Score.
LINK
If I didn't make any mistakes, those are the Hall of Famers he faced at least 20 times. So it's a mixed bag. The link is a complete head to head list.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:24 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Robin Roberts is in the Hall, .267 2 Hrs
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:29 pm to TigerintheNO
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Robin Roberts is in the Hall, .267 2 Hrs
Are you sure that's the right one? I thought the HOFer was an outfielder for the Phillies. But I'm not 100% sure.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:35 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Are you sure that's the right one? I thought the HOFer was an outfielder for the Phillies. But I'm not 100% sure.
He was a pitcher.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:44 pm to Bestbank Tiger
There is only one Robin Roberts. A pitcher for the Phillies and a cup of coffee with the Orioles in the 50's and 60's. Of course, there is Robin Roberts from GMA on ABC who played WCBB. Maybe that's what you're thinking about.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:47 pm to msudawg1200
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There is only one Robin Roberts. A pitcher for the Phillies and a cup of coffee with the Orioles in the 50's and 60's. Of course, there is Robin Roberts from GMA on ABC who played WCBB. Maybe that's what you're thinking about.
I believe Roberts spent some time with the Astros after his Phillies career.
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