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Will we get any clues or answers Tuesday?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:11 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:11 am
The question should be phrased exactly like this:
"What scenario exists where a 2 loss big ten champion passes Ohio state?"
They can say we don't delve into hypotheticals but it is not a hypothetical situation. The B1G champ will have 2 losses
"What scenario exists where a 2 loss big ten champion passes Ohio state?"
They can say we don't delve into hypotheticals but it is not a hypothetical situation. The B1G champ will have 2 losses
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:15 am to Buckeye06
Committee better hope Wisconsin wins if they want OSU in the playoffs. Makes it a much easier sell.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:24 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:16 am to Buckeye06
Its not that OSU doesn't deserve to be in.
Its the precedent that it sets.
If Penn State beats Wisconsin, Penn State DESERVES to be in. You can't keep Penn State out, and their other loss, is to the team who handed CLEMSON its only loss.
If Penn State wins, both OSU and Penn State should make the playoff.
If Wisconsin wins, you can make the argument that OSU gets in over Wisconsin based on H2H.
If Penn State wins, and they don't get in, that sets a precedent that you cant come back from. Especially since the committee seems to make up the rules as they go along.
Its the precedent that it sets.
If Penn State beats Wisconsin, Penn State DESERVES to be in. You can't keep Penn State out, and their other loss, is to the team who handed CLEMSON its only loss.
If Penn State wins, both OSU and Penn State should make the playoff.
If Wisconsin wins, you can make the argument that OSU gets in over Wisconsin based on H2H.
If Penn State wins, and they don't get in, that sets a precedent that you cant come back from. Especially since the committee seems to make up the rules as they go along.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:17 am to Buckeye06
Imagine the shite storm if Washington beats Colorado, Penn State beats Wisconsin, Clemson beats Virginia Tech and Florida takes out Alabama. That puts two teams who didn't win their conference in the title picture, while also potentially leaving out 2 major conference title winners. They really just need to move to an 8 team playoff. 5 major conference (ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12, SEC) champions are auto bids and then you can take the next best 3 teams.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:18 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:21 am to Buckeye06
I love how this board is melting like this matters. Congrats, you may get into the playoff and then you will be drummed by bama.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:21 am to USAF Hart
quote:
Florida takes out Alabama
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:23 am to thegreatboudini
Looks like you're the one melting
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:25 am to boXerrumble
Oh trust me, I don't believe that it will happen, but just imagine the shite storm scenario that would take place if it did?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:25 am to EastNastySwag
How so? OSU fans are losing their shite. The other half is trolling them saying they don't deserve to get in. I'm just over here laughing at LSU fans mad about coach O when he was the best they could do because LSU is a shite job with the worst fanbase in college football.
Trust me, I don't even have pants on. There is no melt here.
Trust me, I don't even have pants on. There is no melt here.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:43 am to thegreatboudini
I'm not losing my shite. I looked for clues the first two years and got a few:
1. Playing in a conference title game helps you a ton if resumes are close
2. Having more losses does not impact you if you pass the eye test and have a good resume
3. Eye test matters
2014 OSU got helped by #1 and #3 because Baylor TCU and OSU had similar resumes. OSU's resume got better the last week (as did Baylors) while TCU's got worse. OSU also looked great in the conference title game
2015 showed me that a 2 loss champion would pass a 1 loss team non-champ when the 2 loss champion had a good resume. Stanford passed a 1 loss OSU based on that statistic but did not pass Iowa. Iowa had no good wins but had 1 loss and played for the conference title, and played tough.
In 2016, the committee will have a decision to make that will shape the decisions in the future.
Last week, OSU was #2 and the committee chair said they were not that close to Wisconsin and PSU. Following that comment, OSU, Wisky and PSU will each play 1 top ten team. OSU beat a top 5 Michigan team at home, while Wisky and PSU both play each other. There is no scenario to me, where the committee chair can make that claim, then look at resumes next week and not come to the same conclusion. Wisconsin and PSU both can boost their resumes a ton in the title game, but neither will be even close to OSU's even with a win.
That's like my opinion man pic
1. Playing in a conference title game helps you a ton if resumes are close
2. Having more losses does not impact you if you pass the eye test and have a good resume
3. Eye test matters
2014 OSU got helped by #1 and #3 because Baylor TCU and OSU had similar resumes. OSU's resume got better the last week (as did Baylors) while TCU's got worse. OSU also looked great in the conference title game
2015 showed me that a 2 loss champion would pass a 1 loss team non-champ when the 2 loss champion had a good resume. Stanford passed a 1 loss OSU based on that statistic but did not pass Iowa. Iowa had no good wins but had 1 loss and played for the conference title, and played tough.
In 2016, the committee will have a decision to make that will shape the decisions in the future.
Last week, OSU was #2 and the committee chair said they were not that close to Wisconsin and PSU. Following that comment, OSU, Wisky and PSU will each play 1 top ten team. OSU beat a top 5 Michigan team at home, while Wisky and PSU both play each other. There is no scenario to me, where the committee chair can make that claim, then look at resumes next week and not come to the same conclusion. Wisconsin and PSU both can boost their resumes a ton in the title game, but neither will be even close to OSU's even with a win.
That's like my opinion man pic
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:55 am to Buckeye06
My issue with OSU beating Michigan is that this was the same Michigan team that lost to an unranked Iowa team and only dropped two spots in the rankings. How can you lose to an unranked team and only drop two spots? That in itself shows how stupid the rankings are. Then Michigan travels to Columbus and takes Ohio State to double OT. Ohio State should have lost that game, with a few questionable calls at the end of the game to force the OT.
Neither Michigan nor Ohio State are playing in the Big 10 title game. It's one thing to play in the title game and win/lose, and a completely different thing to not even be playing next week.
Neither Michigan nor Ohio State are playing in the Big 10 title game. It's one thing to play in the title game and win/lose, and a completely different thing to not even be playing next week.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:03 am to Buckeye06
IMO if Washington, Clemson and penn state win their conference games, they're all in. If one slips up Ohio state is in. The committee has proven before that week to week rankings are meaningless and when you're not on the field, you often get leapfrogged.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:05 am to boXerrumble
quote:Yep. You're basically saying, "frick the conferences and your records, we're just going to pick what ever team we like best."
If Penn State wins, and they don't get in, that sets a precedent that you cant come back from.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:06 am to Buckeye06
Lol don't read into these week's rankings.
Signed,
TCU.
Signed,
TCU.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:30 am to boXerrumble
The precedent that two loss teams get into the playoffs in twelve game seasons?
How low is your IQ mate
How low is your IQ mate
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:35 am to rocket31
quote:
The precedent that two loss teams get into the playoffs in twelve game seasons?
How low is your IQ mate
Penn State's 2 losses are to Pittsburgh (who handed Clemson its only loss) and Michigan (who OSU beat, and PSU beat OSU).
If they beat Wisconsin next week, they would absolutely deserve to be in the playoff.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:36 am to thegreatboudini
quote:
Trust me, I don't even have pants on. There is no melt here.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:37 am to boXerrumble
So they lost to a .500 team and Michigan by over 30?
Crown em I say
Crown em I say
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:39 am to rocket31
quote:
So they lost to a .500 team and Michigan by over 30?
Crown em I say
Tell me then.
If Penn State wins, next week, who is your top 4?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:41 am to boXerrumble
Bud Foster is going to have Dabo Swinney crying on the sidelines by the 3rd Quarter 
......
Oh that's right, Watson can run, Bud's kryptonite...Clemson by 35
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Oh that's right, Watson can run, Bud's kryptonite...Clemson by 35
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