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Why was Tony La Russa and Dave Duncan so good at their coaching jobs?

Posted on 7/14/18 at 11:19 pm
Posted by mountaintop
Member since Oct 2017
740 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 11:19 pm
Tony La Russa and Dave Duncan led their teams to six league championships and three World Series championships during their tandem as manager/pitching coach.

Why were they so good at their coaching jobs, guiding superstars like Eckersley, Canseco, McGwire, Edmonds, Morris, Pujols, Carpenter, Wainwright?
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:03 am to
He didnt try to be the players friend
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14989 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:10 am to
They got a Game 6 moved back a day due to some BS weather delay so their ace pitcher could go for game 7. frick em
Posted by CarlockLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
916 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:12 am to
It was a great run. All good things come to an and at some point and you have to rebuild...
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35508 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:13 am to
LaRussa despite all his succees lost to the worst WS team of all-time while fielding a team of a roiders.

He should have won 3 consecutive WS with those A's.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28058 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:15 am to
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They got a Game 6 moved back a day due to some BS weather delay so their ace pitcher could go for game 7. frick em


It fricking poured for hours, it was the only thing MLB could do.

Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14989 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:15 am to
Who is that?
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14989 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:16 am to
Bull shite. Was fine by the time game rolled around
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28058 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:16 am to
Dodgers? That Reds team was good, they had one of best pens. Flames from right and left side.
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14989 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:23 am to
Interesting. 1988 Dodgers are worst WS champ of all time


At least they weren’t like 2011 cards and got benefit out of bs all star game home field advantage
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28058 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:27 am to
quote:

At least they weren’t like 2011 cards and got benefit out of bs all star game home field advantage


You whiny count, go cry some where else.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33941 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 1:10 am to
Don't know enough about the ins and outs of Duncan's coaching to comment about him but I can tell you what made La Russa great. La Russa was an innovator and a very tactically proficient manager. He redefined the way teams managed their bullpens by creating specialized roles for relievers to optimize their performance. Before teams would just have their best relievers throw multiple innings to close out a game or just have the starter pitch the entire game. La Russa was one of the first managers to use one inning relief specialists with closers pitching one inning, setup men, LOOGYs, etc... And no manager before or after him has ever been better at managing a bullpen. The A's and Cardinals had historically great bullpens under his watch. How many managers can win a postseason series without a single starter going past the fifth inning like La Russa did in the 2011 NLCS? That's just brilliant managing. He was also great at optimizing batting lineups. He was one of the first managers to bat pitchers eighth in their lineup because he realized that it hurt run production to have hitters at the top of the lineup constantly come up to hit with the bases empty. So to sum it up, La Russa is one of the few managers whose tactical acumen is so great that he actually had a significantly positive impact on a team's win-loss record unlike most managers who usually are completely reliant on the talent of their team to achieve success.
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14989 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 2:13 am to
You know that and rain delay are only reasons why you win, puto
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30108 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:30 am to
Some would call that over managing
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