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re: Why isn't Minnesota shopping Kevin Love now?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:26 am to RockEmSockEm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:26 am to RockEmSockEm
I disagree. The Dwight move just sort of screwed them this season and the free agent market wasn't that great.
I'm not sure what their draft pick situation is, but they should find a good quality player in the lottery this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see them find a way to add another pick.
They have no issue paying the luxury tax to help Kobe chase another title.
The two teams you mentioned aren't that much better than Minnesota. Golden State may miss the playoffs this year. Portland is 3-7 in their last 10 and have slowed down tremendously.
The Lakers in their market and their ability to chase down free agents is the only viable team of those 3 if he ever wants to win a championship.
I'm not sure what their draft pick situation is, but they should find a good quality player in the lottery this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see them find a way to add another pick.
They have no issue paying the luxury tax to help Kobe chase another title.
The two teams you mentioned aren't that much better than Minnesota. Golden State may miss the playoffs this year. Portland is 3-7 in their last 10 and have slowed down tremendously.
The Lakers in their market and their ability to chase down free agents is the only viable team of those 3 if he ever wants to win a championship.
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:26 am to RockEmSockEm
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I feel like Lakers and Dallas and Kings are the three last teams If want to be right now from a roster standpoint.
One of these is not like the other.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:27 am to Lester Earl
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way better rebounder.
and Brand never shot 38% from 3
I know Love has more range than Brand and is a better rebounder. I just feel like they are both great stat stuffers who can't carry teams. You can point to injuries or playing a tough conference I guess, I just think that he should be able to carry a team to the playoffs.
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Look at that roster and tell me how they are supposed to be a perennial Western conference playoff team.
The West is obviously stacked, but it's not like Dallas or Phoenix are that much more talented. Even a few seasons ago Dallas and Utah weren't that much better but Minnesota wasn't even close to the playoffs. Kyrie gets a lot of shite for his w/l record, I just wonder why Love doesn't.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:30 am to ZTiger87
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but it's not like Dallas or Phoenix are that much more talented
But both of their coaches are. No one expected Phoenix to be where they are this year.
I'd say Dallas is much more talented though with Dirk, Calderon, and Ellis.
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Even a few seasons ago Dallas and Utah weren't that much better but Minnesota wasn't even close to the playoffs.
They've had some serious injury issues the last couple years.
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Kyrie gets a lot of shite for his w/l record,
That is because his conference is historically bad
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:32 am to The_Man_of_Steel
You could say the same thing about the Knicks.
Kobe is a horrible contract now. Stupid to sign him to that. He's Amare. They have nothing else as Pau's value has plummeted to the point of .50 cents on the dollar of what it was. And their coach will never win a title.
Kobe is a horrible contract now. Stupid to sign him to that. He's Amare. They have nothing else as Pau's value has plummeted to the point of .50 cents on the dollar of what it was. And their coach will never win a title.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:34 am to RockEmSockEm
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And their coach will never win a title.
I can agree with this, but I do think his system does work better in today's NBA.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:38 am to RTR America
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He went to UCLA and is a California kid. He is going to the Lakers. The question is just when
Born in Cal but grew up in Oregon. H.S. team was the Lake Oswego Lakers though.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:48 am to RTR America
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But both of their coaches are
Do you even know who coaches the T Wolves?
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I'd say Dallas is much more talented though with Dirk, Calderon, and Ellis.
Love > Dirk
Pek > Ellis
Martin = Calderon
Dallas has a deeper bench, but it's not like the talent level is that different.
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Which unlike 90% of the teams in the NBA, they can fix in a single offseason through free agency.
The Lakers really can't though. They have about $20m in cap space with only 5 guys on the roster. About the best they could do this offseason is signing Deng, a few low cost backups and doing a sign and trade of Nash for Lowry. It's going to take them a few years to get back on their feet.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:53 am to ZTiger87
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Do you even know who coaches the T Wolves?
Rick Adelman. Go read some Twolves forums, get their opinions on him, and come back. It isn't pretty.
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Love > Dirk
More like a push
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Dallas has a deeper bench, but it's not like the talent level is that different.
I guess, but I just can't see the Twolves being much more successful with Rubio scoring 9 points a game.
It isn't like their records are that different.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:09 am to RTR America
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Rick Adelman. Go read some Twolves forums, get their opinions on him, and come back. It isn't pretty.
I could point you to Rockets, Kings and Blazers fans who loved Adelman. I could point you to Pacers and Pistons fans who didn't like Carlisle. End of the day, Adelman has a history of being a pretty damn good coach. His career winning % in the regular season and postseason is almost identical to Carlisle.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:37 am to ZTiger87
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He's basically a slightly better Elton Brand.
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Pistons and Rockets 1st to Minny.
You are talking about David Lee right?
If Houston is serious about a 3rd star, they offer Parsons, picks, and whoever else to Minnesota for Love.
Harden/Dwight/Love is dynamite.
The LA attraction is real though. His uncle is a Beach Boy. I'd say Cali is in his blood
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:43 am to ZTiger87
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He's basically a slightly better Elton Brand.
...and here I thought LSUTIGER in TEXAS had hands-down the dumbest post on this page...what a horrible comparison.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:52 am to RTR America
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The Lakers in their market and their ability to chase down free agents is the only viable team of those 3 if he ever wants to win a championship.
Portland has 2 All Stars, and should be in position to sign Love and still have a nice team around those 3. the Lakers may right the ship by then to be an enticing option by then, but Portland would be a championship contender as well.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:56 am to ATLTiger
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Portland has 2 All Stars, and should be in position to sign Love and still have a nice team around those 3
Kevin Love and Aldridge? They play the same position and play it pretty similarly.
Their defense would be terrible as well. Lillard and Love are both all stars that struggle on the defensive end. Aldridge isn't the best defender in the world either.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 7:57 am
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:18 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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he plays for a bad team. Someone on bad teams have to score
his team also has kevin martin (who was avg like 25 ppg earlier this year) and the near 20/10 pekovic
minny's bench sucks and rubio never developed in terms of shooting/scoring. they're just a flawed team with a lot of good/great pieces
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:21 am to RTR America
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The Lakers in their market and their ability to chase down free agents is the only viable team of those 3 if he ever wants to win a championship.
We'll see. Buss the Younger appears to be missing the magic touch of Dr. Buss the Elder.
They just lost out on the best 5 in the league in his prime with a longer and bigger offer to UFA. NYC had nothing but a bunch of cap space once upon a time too.
Now I wouldn't be shocked if they strike gold in the draft, get Love, then Durant and win 10 titles in a row. That's how the Lakers roll. But I do have doubts about their supremacy for the first time in a while.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:21 am to RTR America
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They have no issue paying the luxury tax to help Kobe chase another title.
you have to have salary to add salary in the NBA. you can't just go from "cap room" to "luxury tax" in a season. it takes like 2-3 years
and kobe takes up an insane amount of that cap room
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The Lakers in their market and their ability to chase down free agents
golden state just signed a near max-level FA this past offseason
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:27 am to ZTiger87
The Lakers are a compete fricking mess.
Jim Buss is a joke.
Jim Buss is a joke.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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minny's bench sucks and rubio never developed in terms of shooting/scoring. they're just a flawed team with a lot of good/great pieces
Exactly. Plus they ended up with fricking Shabazz and Gorgui Dieng in the draft after trading away Trey Burke
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:45 am to The Easter Bunny
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Exactly. Plus they ended up with fricking Shabazz and Gorgui Dieng in the draft after trading away Trey Burke
They won their trade with us.
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