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re: Why does the media have some weird love affair with Aaron Craft?

Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:12 pm to
Yeah, and Erving Walker is the career assists leader at UF.

Career numbers mean absolutely nothing when talking about four-year starters.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:12 pm to
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He's incredibly overhyped.


Trey Burke laughs at this
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:13 pm to
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eah, and Erving Walker is the career assists leader at UF.



Did you overlook the per game stats I posted?


Fail.
Posted by KillerNut9
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:13 pm to
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Career numbers mean absolutely nothing when talking about four-year starters.


He didn't start as a freshman. And he broke the career steals record like 1/4 of the way into his junior season.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:13 pm to
whoops

still, per game stats are inflated for four year starters as well, so my point stands
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:14 pm to
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He didn't start as a freshman. And he broke the career steals record like 1/4 of the way into his junior season.

He played 30 minutes per game. Whether or not he actually started is irrelevant.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:15 pm to
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still, per game stats are inflated for four year starters as well, so my point stands

Now I get why you think Craft is overrated
Posted by SprintFun
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:15 pm to
So a bigger sample size produces less accurate statistics?

Go home, you're drunk.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:15 pm to
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8? Maybe not. Close to 8? Yes. Intangibles have to be factored into how good of a player you are. I think he's top 15, with a case for top 10. He's the best player on a top 5 team right now

so, in other words, you're delusional and can't objectively judge the basketball abilities of a close friend

got it
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:15 pm to
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still, per game stats are inflated for four year starters as well, so my point stands




How do you even figure that?

I suppose per 40 minutes would be best, but I don't have stats compared to the whole history of the Big Ten for that.

It basically just shows how damn good he's been for a very long time.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:16 pm to
People think Craft is overrated solely because he's not a great shooter. Everything else he's fricking great at.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:17 pm to
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So a bigger sample size produces less accurate statistics?

Uh, no, that's not what I said.

We're not talking about efficiency stats (like per minute stats) here. We're talking about per game stats. Of course, the players who played more minutes are going to average more assists per game.

He's played 30+ minutes every season in his four years at Ohio State, so of course he's going to have high career per game stats compared to two-year starters.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:17 pm to
It's delusional to think Craft is a top 15 player? Please name 15 guys that it's absolutely absurd to say Craft is better than
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:18 pm to
All the greats that played in the Big Ten didn't play 30+ minutes their entire career.

Ok, got it.




You are what, 15 years old? That's your mental capacity.
Posted by dlmast87
Amish Country
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:19 pm to
really good players play a lot of minutes
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:19 pm to
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All the greats that played in the Big Ten didn't play 30+ minutes their entire career.

I bet a good portion of them didn't.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:19 pm to
True, most of the best players to ever go through college didnt play many minutes. You got us there
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:20 pm to
A lot of great basketball players rode the bench as freshman and sophomores only to break out as juniors and seniors.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:21 pm to
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I bet a good portion of them didn't


holy shite you're dumb
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:21 pm to
Craft's value goes beyond the stats for OSU IMO. He may have stats similar to Wilbekin but he's a better all-around package.
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