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Why do so many great college athletes fail in the pros?

Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:22 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:22 am
The simple answer is they don't take the right approach to it. Some players were great because of the scheme they were in or the system, or even size may have played a factor into the greatness. Lets exclude them and talk about guys that truly were great, but just couldn't cut it on the next level. The reason I think they fail is because they don't treat it like it truly is, a job. Like any other high paying job, you'd better perform or it is adios. You have to put time into your craft to be better at it and stay ahead of the curve. Peyton Manning is a perfect example of this. Up at 5 studying film and going all day trying to be perfect. Another one is of course Kobe. He mirrored his ethic after the goat. Discuss.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:23 am to
Ummmm because it's more difficult and every player in the league is one of the best in their field?

Why do so many great high school athletes fail in college?
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:23 am to
The obvious answer is that they don't possess the talent or skill that is needed to excel at their position at the next level.

Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:23 am to
You answered your own question quite thoroughly.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:24 am to
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Another one is of course Kobe


TIL Kobe was a college athlete
Posted by ULSU
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:26 am to
I think you are overanalyzing it. There is a HUGE leap to professional sports. You think Tebow didn't have a "professional" approach?
Posted by MadMaxwell
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:28 am to
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Another one is of course Kobe.
Would you mind telling us a little more about Kobe's college career? I'm afraid I don't enough about it to form an opinion.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:29 am to
Scheme
Injuries
Fame
Drugs
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:30 am to
Right?!
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:32 am to
Some of it is not being able, or being too stubborn, to develope and use their talent at maximum level. But most of it is probably because of how amazing the talent is.

Think about how good you have to be to start on Alabama's offensive line. I'd say 80% of the starters on NFL offensive lines would be better than 90% of Alabama's linemen since Saban has been their. The jump in talent is just ridiculous.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 9:34 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:35 am to
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TIL Kobe was a college athlete
What I'm referring to is Kobe's work ethic and his approacht to the game.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:36 am to

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I think you are overanalyzing it. There is a HUGE leap to professional sports. You think Tebow didn't have a "professional" approach?



I addressed this below


quote:

Some players were great because of the scheme they were in or the system, or even size may have played a factor into the greatness. Lets exclude them





This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 9:38 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:39 am to
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The obvious answer is that they don't possess the talent or skill that is needed to excel at their position at the next level.
That is not the case for some guys. I'm talking about the Ed O'Bannons of the world. Ed's problem was that he treated it like college. Partied every night and had fun, but did do the extra things to make you great professionally.
Posted by MadMaxwell
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:44 am to
There's a lot of guys who don't have great work ethics in their early 20s.


In college it's still a game. At the next level, it's a job.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:46 am to
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There's a lot of guys who don't have great work ethics in their early 20s. In college it's still a game. At the next level, it's a job.
Exactly. Talent is not always the issue.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:47 am to
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Like any other high paying job, you'd better perform or it is adios. You have to put time into your craft to be better at it and stay ahead of the curve
Well, this is a bold take!!!
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:48 am to
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You answered your own question quite thoroughly
And rather terribly.

The answer the overwhelming majority of examples is that they just aren't good enough.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:53 am to
Many coasted on talent in college and don't realize the amount of dedication and focus required to be successful at the professional level.

You should be putting in at least 8 hours a day in training. Just like other people with regular jobs
Posted by ULSU
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:56 am to
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I addressed this below


quote:
Some players were great because of the scheme they were in or the system, or even size may have played a factor into the greatness. Lets exclude them


But Tebow wasn't that dominating in college simply because of the scheme, and his size is certainly not an issue. He had minor flaws that even with tons and tons of work could not be corrected. There is that little margin to compete in the NFL because the talent is so much greater than even at the highest levels of CFB.

Tebow flat out dominated college football players, and was a mediocre to failing in the NFL despite working as hard as Jerry Rice. Much of the failure in the NFL is a product of Owners and GMs getting infatuated with college stats.

Your point is really only relevant to the true flame outs like Russell and Leaf
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 9:58 am to
The real answer is that in the vast majority of cases, what made them good in college was taken away at the next level.

Most of he great college players who weren't great in the pros exploited some weakness in college that can't be exploited against better competition.

That is the correct answer.

Very few great college players failed in the pros because they didn't work hard enough.
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