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Which of the top four, according to comprehensive data, doesn't belong?

Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:57 pm
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:57 pm
The committee got it right, as usual, unless anyone can prove otherwise.

Comprehensive data only. If you don't cite all games played, you have no point.

Anyone?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:57 pm to
My only question is, if you attach Ohio State's exact scenario to Wisconsin, does Wisconsin get in?
Posted by gobuxgo5
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:58 pm to
They can't

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This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:58 pm to
Yes.

Can you answer the question now?
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:01 pm to
I would like to see some kind of uniform scheduling format across college football.

The committee got it right. However, I feel like we'd have more data points and just an overall better system if everyone played 9 conference games, 2 games against other power 5 teams, and then 1 game against a group of five team.

I believe Saban is arguing for something of this nature. And I think his main point was that we'd have a better idea of who the best 4 teams are this way.

This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:01 pm to
:tumbleweeds:

I thought so. No need to anchor this one, hero admins. This one will die on its own.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:02 pm to
There is one group of 128 teams. The top four make it in. That's it. Please just get it. It isn't hard.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 5:03 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:04 pm to
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Here is one group of 128 teams. The top four make it in. That's it. Please just get it. It isn't hard.

Can you have one conversation with someone without being an a-hole?

Nothing in my post suggested I don't "get" those obvious statements you just made. It was a simple topic of discussion for your thread.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:04 pm to
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Comprehensive data only. If you don't cite all games played, you have no point.

Anyone?




Sure... All teams but Ohio State played 13 games. That's not because Ohio State just decided to not play an extra game, but because they weren't good enough through the season to play that extra game.

All teams but Ohio State are already Champions and have passed their first test.

Ohio State are neither of the above, while others were left out that meet that criteria.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:07 pm to
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Can you have one conversation with someone without being an a-hole?
Why don't you get it though? It's been explained to you. Ohio state isn't subjectively better than Penn State—they are MATHEMATICALLY better. Simple arithmetic is all you need. Just use it.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

Yes.



I don't think they do.



I think every team in the playoff deserves to be there. I just don't think the committee would've put a team like Wisky in if they were in Ohio State's shoes.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:09 pm to
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All teams but Ohio State are already Champions
There are zero playoff champions.

Sorry. You have no point.

Unless you can prove that Ohio State has a worse record or weaker schedule than someone in the conversation, shhhhhhhh.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Why don't you get it though? It's been explained to you.

quote:

The committee got it right.

You're so into yourself and being right, that you can't even read people's responses anymore, it seems.
quote:

Ohio state isn't subjectively better than Penn State—they are MATHEMATICALLY better. Simple arithmetic is all you need. Just use it.

You're the math guy. Wouldn't more games against those 128 teams you mentioned give us even more relevant data to use to mathematically determine the top 4?

Obviously, the Pac 12, SEC, and other major conferences are still playing FCS games. That was Saban's whole point. Get those teams off the schedule.


ETA: I'm sure you'll come back with something like "this is the system that is in place! Why don't you get it!?"

I understand the system that is in place. I'm arguing for a way to make it even better. I think eliminating FCS games would make it better.


*The Big Ten has announced they won't be playing FCS teams anymore.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 5:28 pm
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

Ohio state isn't subjectively better than Penn State—they are MATHEMATICALLY better.

Except on a scoreboard apparently.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:13 pm to
quote:


Obviously, the Big Ten, SEC, and other major conferences are still playing FCS games. That was Saban's whole point. Get those teams off the schedule.
The Big Ten lost two of those games.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:14 pm to
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Obviously, the Big Ten, SEC, and other major conferences are still playing FCS games. 


This is absolutely wrong.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:14 pm to
quote:


Except on a scoreboard apparently.
That's a start. Cite the other 24 scoreboards applicable and then you can sit at the table.
quote:

ETA: I'm sure you'll come back with something like "this is the system that is in place! Why don't you get it!?"
No, I have actual comprehensive evidence to support my opinions. I don't need to use rhetoric. I'm right and I know it, and I'm happy to prove it.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 5:16 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

This is absolutely wrong.

Didn't mean to say Big Ten. Meant Pac 12. My bad.

Obviously the Big Ten isn't playing those games. They let everyone know it, as they should.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 5:15 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:17 pm to
Well, I guess technically they are. They're not scheduling them anymore.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:18 pm to
Which is awesome. Very proactive by the conference
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