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re: Where does Jon Scheyer rank in Duke history?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:58 am to OutofTownAlumni
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:58 am to OutofTownAlumni
You thought he'd be in the NBA by now, huh Dustin?
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Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:03 pm to TeddyPadillac
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They'd take 4 years of scheyer over 3 years of them
Lol
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:06 pm to Lester Earl
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They'd take 4 years of scheyer over 3 years of them
Lol
Last I checked, Scheyer won a championship in his 4 years. I don't know why any Duke fan would trade that in.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:06 pm to Lester Earl
You edited that quote into something totally different 
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:07 pm to floridatigah
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You edited that quote into something totally different
Holy shite youre right. Completely distorted it. Pretty weak arse move.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:09 pm to REG861
I'm not trying to hate on him. But he's not a top 10 duke player of all time. That's laughable
Lance Thomas won a title too. Doesn't mean he's an all time Duke big man
Lance Thomas won a title too. Doesn't mean he's an all time Duke big man
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:12 pm to floridatigah
I couldn't copy and paste it for some reason on mobile, so I typed it myself
I read it wrong.
Of course you'd take him 4 years over those guys. Doesn't mean he was better.
If you're talking top 10 careers he has an argument
I read it wrong.
Of course you'd take him 4 years over those guys. Doesn't mean he was better.
If you're talking top 10 careers he has an argument
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:12 pm to Lester Earl
Not just basing this off a title tho. Court leadership for 4 years was invaluable. His lack of turnovers as well. His shooting in the clutch was something not many people have. He is borderline top 10 that's why I asked. I think he is in top 10 but to say it's laughable is pretty dumb.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:15 pm to Lester Earl
I gotcha, I read it that way too at first when I saw the 3. It's an impossible argument without more context. I don't know how you could compare him to a guy like Brand, the best Duke player of the last 20 years IMO but only played a year and a half and didn't get the title.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:19 pm to OutofTownAlumni
There are just guys with better accolades. From college, to winning championships, to all America teams, and to pro succes(which has to count for something )
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:23 pm to REG861
Thing is, not Duke fan is trading that in or discrediting Scheyer for what he did at Duke.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:34 pm to OutofTownAlumni
Probably #4 on the Duke Doucher Scale
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:52 pm to Lester Earl
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There are just guys with better accolades. From college, to winning championships, to all America teams, and to pro succes(which has to count for something )
pro success has nothign to do with it.
He has the accolades
he's an all american
won acc championships
won a national championship, was the only all american on that team.
How many other Duke players have done that?
You konw they've won 4 national championships
Hill, Laetner, Hurley are responsible for two
Jay WIll, Dunleavy, Battier, Boozer won the other
Scheyer was the only all american on the other
Posted on 10/10/14 at 1:42 pm to Lester Earl
Can't count pro success. Honestly he was on his way to making a roster before he got popped in the eye. Being it would have been a role player, it is still a roster spot.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 1:47 pm to TeddyPadillac
Dick groat
Mike gminski
Johnny dawkins
Art heyman
Christian laetner
Bobby hurley
Grant hill
Jeff mullins
Shane battier
Jay williams
JJ redick
Sheldon williams
Then there are others guys you can make a case for scheyer being better or worse:
Dunlevy
Boozer
Singler
Brand (if they win in 99, no doubt he's top 10 just with 2yrs)
Trajan
Nolan smith
Probably some others im leaving off.
Mike gminski
Johnny dawkins
Art heyman
Christian laetner
Bobby hurley
Grant hill
Jeff mullins
Shane battier
Jay williams
JJ redick
Sheldon williams
Then there are others guys you can make a case for scheyer being better or worse:
Dunlevy
Boozer
Singler
Brand (if they win in 99, no doubt he's top 10 just with 2yrs)
Trajan
Nolan smith
Probably some others im leaving off.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 2:30 pm to CM84
Two pages and no dumb talk from peej about refs? I'm impressed.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 2:30 pm to OutofTownAlumni
You can't count pro success because he wasn't good enough to play in the NBA? I like how that works.
Was a role player pretty much for 3 years as well. Hard to include him in a top 10 list.
Was a role player pretty much for 3 years as well. Hard to include him in a top 10 list.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 2:58 pm to Lester Earl
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Was a role player pretty much for 3 years as well.
David McClure was a role player. Jon Scheyer was not a "Role player." Someone who starts for three years and finished in top 3 on team scoring for three different seasons is not a role player. Role players do not score 14.9 ppg as a junior.
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 10/10/14 at 2:59 pm to Lester Earl
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You can't count pro success because he wasn't good enough to play in the NBA? I like how that works.
pro success in general should have no bearing on how good a player was while he was at Duke.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 3:13 pm to REG861
Not even close to the top 10.
Duke has 13 retired numbers. All are better than him, and there is no way that he will even sniff getting his jersey retired.
Duke has 13 retired numbers. All are better than him, and there is no way that he will even sniff getting his jersey retired.
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