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Where does Bill Snyder rank of all time?

Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:10 am
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:10 am
IMO he's in the top 10. In no particular order in recent memory:

Snyder
Paterno
Bryant
Bowden
Saban
Meyer
Carroll
Switzer
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:10 am to
He's #1 to me.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12840 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:27 am to
He's for sure legend status
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28900 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:27 am to
Tom Osborne???
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32495 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:31 am to
quote:

IMO he's in the top 10.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33943 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:39 am to
In terms of accomplishments, he's barely top 50. Snyder took over a terrible program and made them into a respectable one so he deserves credit for that. However he only has two conference titles, never finished in the top 5, won a major bowl game only once, etc... Plus it's not like Kansas State didn't have any resources to work with like say an Iowa State. The state of Kansas has one of the best JUCO football systems in the country and Snyder was able to use that pipeline to his full advantage to build the K-State program.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82032 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:40 am to
In the 11 year span between 93 and 2003, he had SIX 11 win seasons... At fricking Kansas State
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61840 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:45 am to
quote:

In terms of accomplishments, he's barely top 50. Snyder took over a terrible program and made them into a respectable one so he deserves credit for that. However he only has two conference titles, never finished in the top 5, won a major bowl game only once, etc... Plus it's not like Kansas State didn't have any resources to work with like say an Iowa State. The state of Kansas has one of the best JUCO football systems in the country and Snyder was able to use that pipeline to his full advantage to build the K-State program.



While I tend to fall more in line with the above, it just amazes me that whenever he's not coaching K State they are full of the suck, he swoopes back in to save the program again, and low and behold, they become a decent program again. His second tenure to me has been pretty impressive.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20686 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:52 am to
I think he's very good. He has every 10 win season in school history. He's won 66% of his games there and if you take out his seasons as coach K State has a winning percentage of 33%. He is the program.

ETA: I think some people under estimate how hard it is to win in Kansas. Outside of Bill Snyder, no one has ever had sustained success at K State or Kansas.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 8:54 am
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:02 am to
he didn't take over a bad program, he took over the worst program in NCAA History.

Guy does it with 2 star kids

He develops kids, and gets them to over achieve.


As a program builder, one of best ever. Top10 coach as well.

Posted by martiallaw
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
1454 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:05 am to
Most underrated coach in all of sports. Kansas St. was historically the worst college football program in America when he took over. If they would have had the college playoffs in the late 90's-2000 he would have gone to the playoffs 6 or 7 times. He recruits 2 star kids and competes at the highest level at Kansas St.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12664 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:09 am to
23 years to go until he is coaching at 100
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16875 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:13 am to
If we are ranking by doing it the right way, he's top 3 for sure.

Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8428 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:13 am to
He's an excellent coach, but his lack of a national championship and low number of conference titles preclude him from being considered an all-time great.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7614 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:24 am to
What could've been if that 1998 KSU team didn't gag a 27-12 lead in the Big 12 title game against A&M.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110886 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:26 am to
quote:

He's an excellent coach, but his lack of a national championship and low number of conference titles preclude him from being considered an all-time great.

Bruh, Kansas State, we're talking about the coach of Kansas State.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8428 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Bruh, Kansas State, we're talking about the coach of Kansas State.


Tough place to win, no doubt about that. But the all time greats take programs that have never won anything and still win championships.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Tough place to win, no doubt about that. But the all time greats take programs that have never won anything and still win championships.
or they leave after their first or 2nd 11 win season and go win big at a school with much better resources
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15903 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:36 am to
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But the all time greats take programs that have never won anything and still win championships.

So Bill McCartney is an all time great and Bill Snyder isn't?
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8428 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:41 am to
Not what I said. I'd have Synder behind guys like Spurrier, Bowden, and Paterno. Guys who built the program AND reached the pinnacle of their profession.
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