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re: When do we stop calling 12 over 5 and 11 over 6 wins upsets?
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:05 pm to goldennugget
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:05 pm to goldennugget
Yeah thats right..basically other than the ultimate chalk year(2007) 12 seeds usually get 1 or 2 and 13's usually get 1.
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:06 pm to Goldrush25
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We don't. They're still upsets.
Unlikely events happen all the time. People win the lottery every week. It doesn't mean that they're still not unlikely events.
Not even close to the same thing
Like someone posted, 12 seeds are 12-10 since 2009. Not too much of an upset anymore
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:16 pm to jg8623
5 seeds dont really have a good track record because they tend to be slumping and not on good form.
I remember Florida getting there in 2000 but they narrowly escaped a 12/5 upset by Butler.
I remember Florida getting there in 2000 but they narrowly escaped a 12/5 upset by Butler.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:16 pm to jg8623
That can easily be dismissed as a statistical anomaly. Why is 2009 the cut-off?
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:17 pm to TXGunslinger10
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They're only upsets in the respect that it proves that RPI means exactly jack shite
i wouldn't say a ranking system that uses a season's worth of data means "jack shite" b/c of an individual game
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:18 pm to TN_Tigers
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5 seeds dont really have a good track record because they tend to be slumping and not on good form.
yeah i'd bet due to the absolutely horrible and subjective way that CBB picks the tourney, the committee creates a self-fulfilling prophecy in this way to "push the pattern"
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:20 pm to Goldrush25
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That can easily be dismissed as a statistical anomaly.
When you lose 45% of your games, it's not an anomaly.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:22 pm to Goldrush25
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That can easily be dismissed as a statistical anomaly. Why is 2009 the cut-off?
Im pretty sure a 12 has won at least 1 game in 22 of the last 25 years and a few years in the early 00's they won 4 or 5 back when double digit seeds were making elite eights.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:22 pm to LordSaintly
if it's not an anomaly, i'd love to know what it says 
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