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When do we stop calling 12 over 5 and 11 over 6 wins upsets?

Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Hog Springs
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:34 pm
These aren't upsets anymore. Happens all the time and they still call them upsets. NDSU had the best player in the game tonight in #24 even though he didn't have a great game and NC State 'should've' won their game.

With the parity in CBB I just don't think the teams in these games are that different.

These 12 and 11 seeds are normally very veteran semi-talented teams too.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:35 pm to
When the 12 and 11 seeds win more than the 5 and 6 seeds?
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:35 pm to
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When


Right now.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:35 pm to
They're only upsets in the respect that it proves that RPI means exactly jack shite
Posted by Hog Springs
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:36 pm to
Uh, they pretty much do now man.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:36 pm to
12 over 5 is almost cliche now. Amazing.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:37 pm to
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Uh, they pretty much do now man.


How many 12 and 11 seeds have won in the round of 64 in the last 5 years?
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:38 pm to
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When the 12 and 11 seeds win more than the 5 and 6 seeds?


12s have won more than the 5s the past 5 years or so

It's not suprising because 5 seeds are usually middling teams that are either not playing well at the moment and peaked back in January

12 seeds are usually the best of the mid major conference winners and no one knows how truly good they are because of the schedule they played.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:38 pm to
They either do or don't.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:39 pm to
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How many 12 and 11 seeds have won in the round of 64 in the last 5 years?


Since 2009 12 seeds are 12-10
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:40 pm to
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They're only upsets in the respect that it proves that RPI means exactly jack shite

congratulations on your really bad post

sure, rpi is a shitty formula, but an underdog winning does not prove that
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:40 pm to
We don't. They're still upsets.

Unlikely events happen all the time. People win the lottery every week. It doesn't mean that they're still not unlikely events.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:44 pm to
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Since 2009 12 seeds are 12-10
Wow if true.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:54 pm to
i would even almost extend it to 13s.

there is so much parity in college basketball nowadays because talent development is better all across the country so there are way more good players to go around, and the best leave for the NBA
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:56 pm to
What are the numbers on 13s vs. 4s?
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:58 pm to
13's have won the last 4 years i believe. I dont know if it happens this year.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:58 pm to
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What are the numbers on 13s vs. 4s?


13 seeds are 7-18 since 2008
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:59 pm to
Upsets don't really start till 1-2 seeds lose. Anything else, shouldn't really be considered an upset.
Posted by TN_Tigers
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:01 pm to
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13 seeds are 7-18 since 2008


Sweet 16 appearances in 2006(Bradley) and 2012(Ohio)
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:02 pm to
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Sweet 16 appearances in 2006(Bradley) and 2012(Ohio)


LaSalle last year too
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