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re: What's the reasoning for ole miss being 4?

Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:41 am to
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:41 am to
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It's all over your head. You don't understand any of it.
You are correct. I don't understand how a No. 2 team falls to only No. 4 after losing to an unranked team.


ETA: Unless, of course, you're trying to keep Alabama propped up at No. 6 and feel justification by putting the team that beat them at No. 4.

This is the only logical explanation.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 11:44 am
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:44 am to
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I don't understand how a No. 2 team falls to only No. 4 after losing to an unranked team.


Because they love Bama... Ole Miss beat Bama Gives the Rebs SUPER POWERS....
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:46 am to
Right?
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:46 am to
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You are correct. I don't understand how a No. 2 team falls to only No. 4 after losing to an unranked team.
Then you aren't in a position to criticize those who do.
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ETA: Unless, of course, you're trying to keep Alabama propped up at No. 6 and feel justification by putting the team that beat them at No. 4. This is the only logical explanation.
I provided you a link to more than 100 formulas, each of which has an individual link with an explanation of the formula. You are either too dumb or too lazy to educate yourself.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:49 am to
If I were you, I'd call in a tech immediately. Your computer is DOA.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:58 am to
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ETA: Unless, of course, you're trying to keep Alabama propped up at No. 6 and feel justification by putting the team that beat them at No. 4. This is the only logical explanation.





I provided you a link to more than 100 formulas, each of which has an individual link with an explanation of the formula. You are either too dumb or too lazy to educate yourself.
I have decades of education in closely following college football. I don't need a mathematical formula to explain bias. It's real and it's nothing new.

Mathematics is fun to dabble with but science and human element do not go hand in hand.
If math figured everything out, there wouldn't be a need to play the games.

And if you insist on telling me that a No. 2 team legitimately falls to No. 4 after losing to an unranked team, well then I suggest you remain in your mom's basement with your computer because you're going to be sorely disappointed if you ever venture outside.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:58 am to
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ETA: Unless, of course, you're trying to keep Alabama propped up at No. 6 and feel justification by putting the team that beat them at No. 4. 

This is the only logical explanation.

did you check the link with all of the combined computer polls? Virtually all of them have Ole Miss in the top 4.

So either your logic is flawed or every one of these computer polls are trying to keep Bama ranked higher. Seems like a no brainer.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:01 pm to
I can't visit with you any further today, I'm busy creating a computer that will spit out Marshall at No. 1.

Have a good day.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:03 pm to
Sure thing, buddy.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:11 pm to
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TX Troll
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:31 pm to
It's as simple as the committee valuing who you beat more than who you lose to
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:31 am to
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I provided you a link to more than 100 formulas
Yes, and 15 of those have Ole Miss currently ranked No. 1.

This should sink into even your brain that these "formulas" are flawed to say the least.
It should also prove to anyone with a functioning brain that computers spit out only the information that is fed into it, which makes them as arbitrary as anyone else's best guess.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/1/14 at 8:39 am to
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This should sink into even your brain
You're the only one who's too dumb to understand why OM is #4, so don't think your attempt to talk intellectually down to anyone is going to be seen as anything more than you grunting.
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that these "formulas" are flawed to say the least.
No formula is flawed. Its application may be subjective, but the formula itself yields only its own equitable result 100% of the time. In fact, you say so yourself right here:
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computers spit out only the information that is fed into it


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which makes them as arbitrary as anyone else's best guess.
When the math community concludes with 95% unanimity that Ole Miss is in the top 4, and when you tell us that that's ridiculous and provide literally no scientific evidence to support your claim, you have not placed yourself anywhere near a position where you are to judge what is and isn't arbitrary.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 11/1/14 at 10:00 am to
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ETA: When was the last time a No. 2 team lost to an unranked team and only fell to No. 4?

tia

That didn't happen in this situation.

This was the first week of the poll. They couldn't "drop" from anywhere.

Ole Miss is ranked lower in the other polls that have been running since the beginning of the year.
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