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re: What the Tiger Woods situation has taught me...

Posted on 3/8/12 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 12:02 pm to
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But it was always funny to play a round in college with a guy who would claim a 6 handicap or something, who would then proceed to be infinitely worse than my friend with a 13 handicap (a real 13 handicap )


Here is an example of why I like playing strict rules. Yesterday I played with the only golfing partner who plays the same way. I hit a ball into a small ditch with water. But my ball landed on a piece of dry mud. To hit it I'd have to set my back foot in the slimy muddy water. I could drop and take a penalty stroke. But instead I found a broken limb and set it across the water and planted my back foot on the limb. I hit the ball about 100 yards right down the middle of the fairway. We both got a kick out of the innovation instead of just saying 'Oh, well, we're not gonna count that one.'
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 12:10 pm to
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I don't think I could get a legitimate base hit off an MLB pitcher if I stood there all day. I think the act of hitting a baseball pitched by a professional is grossly under rated.


True. Also, re: getting hit in the head. It has nothing to do with competence. It also has to do with intent. In college we played against a really good pitcher from U. Nebraska. He was throwing about 90 mph. The guy at bat while I was on deck hit a home run and hot dogged it around the bases. I could see that the pitcher was pissed off at his display. When I came up I was scared as hell. Sure enough, the first pitch was like 95 straight at my face (I used an open stance). But because I was expecting it I managed to just get out of the way.

I've never experienced fear on a golf course or a tennis court.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:55 pm to
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But instead I found a broken limb and set it across the water and planted my back foot on the limb.


The irony in this is hilarious. You're giving an example of yourself breaking multiple rules while chastising others for doing the same.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112457 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 6:26 pm to
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The irony in this is hilarious. You're giving an example of yourself breaking multiple rules while chastising others for doing the same.


1. Name the multiple rules.
2. I could have taken off my right shoe and sock and broken no rule.
Posted by threeputt
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 6:39 pm to
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1. Name the multiple rules.


Two for starters

1) You moved a stick that was in the hazard
2) You built a stance
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31910 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 6:52 pm to
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If I played a PGA course set up as the pros play it, I'm fairly confident that I could make a few pars. I don't think I could get a legitimate base hit off an MLB pitcher if I stood there all day.


See, I played baseball my whole life, And I play golf very regularly (especially the last 4 years since I no longer play baseball). I feel like if you told me right now that a year from today I would HAVE to play a season starting in the MLB, I could practice on hitting everyday and my batting average would end up being close to .100
On the other hand, if you told me a year from today I would have to play a full year on the PGA, I could practice all I want, but I don't think I would make one cut.

Which one is worse, I'm not sure
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 7:32 pm to
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1) You moved a stick that was in the hazard 2) You built a stance

I put myself in a worse situation than taking off a shoe. Bare foot in the water I could have hit the same shot 50 yards closer to the green. You miss the point.
Posted by threeputt
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 7:36 pm to
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You miss the point.


ok
Posted by CoolBoy13
Member since Oct 2010
140 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 7:36 pm to
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Golf

Not even a sport.

No defense is played.

Nice try though
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10133 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 7:38 pm to
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Not even a sport.

No defense is played.

Nice try though

Whew! I didn't think the cool kids would ever get here.
Posted by Titleist72
Member since Oct 2011
377 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 8:32 pm to
Ive been working on setting my wrists at the top of my backswing. I have a tendency to cup my left wrist and that causes the club face to open up at impact, causing a fade or slice. I have been working on bowing my left wrist (or keep it a little more flat at least) during my transition hoping that will allow me to hit more square shots.

Anyone else tuning their game?
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 8:46 pm to
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You miss the point.


I think you're missing the point. You're calling out people for not playing by the rules when, apparently, you don't know the rules yourself. If you didn't know that you couldn't move a stick in a hazard or prop yourself up on something to build a stance, then how do you know you aren't breaking several other rules throughout any given round? Those are pretty basic.

BTW, threeputt pointed out the "multiple" rules I was talking about.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 8:47 pm to
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Whew! I didn't think the cool kids would ever get here.


quote:

CoolBoy13


Yep, they're here.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 8:53 pm to
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I feel like if you told me right now that a year from today I would HAVE to play a season starting in the MLB, I could practice on hitting everyday and my batting average would end up being close to .100


I don't know how far you made it playing baseball, but unless you played some major college ball, I think you're grossly overestimating your abilities or vastly underestimating how hard it would be to hit major league pitching. If you're just an average person who maybe played some high school ball, then I don't think you could ever hit .100 in MLB.

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On the other hand, if you told me a year from today I would have to play a full year on the PGA, I could practice all I want, but I don't think I would make one cut.


Hell no, you couldn't make a cut. I'd give you 5 years to practice and you still wouldn't make a cut. But if you took 5 years and got some real instruction, you could possibly become a scratch golfer.
This post was edited on 3/8/12 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31910 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 9:20 pm to
Well the first thing I would do either way would be hire a coach. And I understand how good MLB pitching is, I have confidence that with a year to train for it I could hit close to .100 (probably in the .085 area). And your right those course are way to hard, no way I make a cut.
My point was that I would have more success in the MLB over the PGA
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10133 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 10:04 pm to
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But if you took 5 years and got some real instruction, you could possibly become a scratch golfer.

Anybody know the status of that guy who is devoting all of his time to golf?

Here is updated info.
This post was edited on 3/8/12 at 10:24 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26986 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 11:02 pm to
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I'd give you 5 years to practice and you still wouldn't make a cut. But if you took 5 years and got some real instruction, you could possibly become a scratch golfer.





True.

There are a shitload of scratch golfers out there. But they can't stroll up to a PGA condition course and throw up a 65. That is the difference. Scratch= shooting 72 regularly. Not shooting a 62 occasionally.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36900 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 9:20 am to
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It is almost like Tiger is getting his bad variance. I remember when he was dominant. Balls would skip through bunkers. Stop on downhills before water. Lip every putt in. Now his balls are burying n the bunker, getting close to lips in bunker, lipping out, and falling into hazards. Golf has a luck factor and when he was playing great, his luck factor was very high.


This is very true. I can't tell you how many times I saw tiger hit a bad drive into the trees or a group of people then suddenly the ball popped out in perfect position. I swear he had someone up in front of him on every hole ready to throw his ball out of trouble.

Obviously there wasn't someone really doing that, but that's what it seemed like. In most cases, you make your own luck. And tiger certainly did that by being as good as he was, but it just always seemed like he was going to get a fortunate bounce out of the trouble that his shitty shot should have put him in.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36900 posts
Posted on 3/9/12 at 9:28 am to
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There are a shitload of scratch golfers out there. But they can't stroll up to a PGA condition course and throw up a 65. That is the difference. Scratch= shooting 72 regularly. Not shooting a 62 occasionally.


And scratch doesn't even mean that, it means your best ten rounds of you last twenty, after throwing out the best and worst round, are averaging the course rating where you play. Or something close to that. People rarely shoot their handicap. Or, maybe only 50% of the time they shoot their handicap.

On top of that, it just depends on the course rating. A scratch golfer isn't just going to show up at a random course and shoot 72 consistently. Especially if the course is rated around 74 or 75. I have no idea what some of these courses that the pros play are rated at the time they play them. A scratch golfer might not break 80 ten out of twenty rounds at some of the tougher courses they play.
This post was edited on 3/9/12 at 9:56 am
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