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What is the big deal with the Astros to the American League
Posted on 11/17/11 at 6:34 am
Posted on 11/17/11 at 6:34 am
I don't know enough, I guess, about baseball.
Can someone give me the cliff notes why this is a bad idea - or why people don't want it?
Much appreciated.
Can someone give me the cliff notes why this is a bad idea - or why people don't want it?
Much appreciated.
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 7:55 am to whiteside
It is much harder to make the playoffs in the AL.
The brewers are getting preferential treatment from the commissioner bc he used to own them.
It is pretty simple.
The brewers are getting preferential treatment from the commissioner bc he used to own them.
It is pretty simple.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 7:59 am to tigeralum06
It is kind of like the conference expansions, changing rivals, and I just hate the dh. I also generally enjoy nl baseball more
Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:00 am to Dire Wolf
Cool thanks for replies.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:02 am to whiteside
Shows how close I follow the MLB, hell I didn't even know they were moving!
Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:13 am to whiteside
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why people don't want it?
The Astros have been in the NL for 50 years and the AL blwos.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:14 am to Dire Wolf
Hurts the TV ratings IMO. A lot Houstonians now have to stay up to midnight watching the west coast games.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:17 am to Moustache
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Hurts the TV ratings IMO. A lot Houstonians now have to stay up to midnight watching the west coast games.
They will play something like 12 more games on the West coast, that's no big deal. Not that anyone was watching anyway.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:18 am to Moustache
Honestly, they probably should probably do a massive realignment, but put Texas, Houston, Colorado, and Arizona in one division (with one other team, probably KC). Having those teams in the West is brutal on travel -- they should put those regional teams together.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:24 am to Baloo
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Honestly, they probably should probably do a massive realignment, but put Texas, Houston, Colorado, and Arizona in one division (with one other team, probably KC). Having those teams in the West is brutal on travel -- they should put those regional teams together.
I would love to just go back to two divisions in each league myself.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:33 am to Baloo
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Having those teams in the West is brutal on travel -- they should put those regional teams together.
They are not traveling by train anymore, i really think that aspect is grossly over rated. I mean is staying in a hotel that much rougher if it 1500 miles away vs 700?
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:38 am to Moustache
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I would love to just go back to two divisions in each league myself.
I'd much rather this than no divisions like Selig wants.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:53 am to H-Town Tiger
Still costs more, makes road trips for fans nigh on impossible, and makes it more difficult to watch divisional games due to the time difference. It's not crippling, but it's a definite competitive disadvantage.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:58 am to whiteside
Truthfully... in my opinion, it comes down to Fan Passion. Moving from the NL to the AL will make me no less of an Astros fan. But, in my opinion, I enjoy NL rules and style of baseball compared to AL.
Consider, if LSU was forced to move to the Pac12? Most LSU fans agree that SEC football is more enjoyable. That is how I feel about the NL with baseball. This isn't about fans "not wanting to change" -- it is all about passion, and what factors go into building that passion over the long term. I've been a fan of the Astros, and a fan of the NL style of baseball for over 35 years. I am now being forced to change my values of what built those 35 years of passion. It will happen, just not overnight.
Consider, if LSU was forced to move to the Pac12? Most LSU fans agree that SEC football is more enjoyable. That is how I feel about the NL with baseball. This isn't about fans "not wanting to change" -- it is all about passion, and what factors go into building that passion over the long term. I've been a fan of the Astros, and a fan of the NL style of baseball for over 35 years. I am now being forced to change my values of what built those 35 years of passion. It will happen, just not overnight.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:10 am to whiteside
I like seeing the Astros play the Cubs and Cards four times a year. Up until the last 4-5 seasons, the NL Central was almost always wide open until the last few days of the season if you weren't the Reds. The division wasn't ever considered one of the premier divisions in baseball, but it was very competitive within itself.
Now it's a whole new set of teams and games. To boot, the old teams are now in a different league, and we won't even necessarily see them every year anymore (granted, I'm not exactly sure what this "continuous interleague play" involves).
And then, on top of that, it's almost a different game across leagues. You don't get to see pitchers try to hit. You have to carry an extra hitter that's worth a damn (and we're talking about my beloved Astros, who decided to get trade away of most of their youth for inexperience this season). I've always preferred NL baseball.
It's just weird.
Now it's a whole new set of teams and games. To boot, the old teams are now in a different league, and we won't even necessarily see them every year anymore (granted, I'm not exactly sure what this "continuous interleague play" involves).
And then, on top of that, it's almost a different game across leagues. You don't get to see pitchers try to hit. You have to carry an extra hitter that's worth a damn (and we're talking about my beloved Astros, who decided to get trade away of most of their youth for inexperience this season). I've always preferred NL baseball.
It's just weird.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:13 am to whiteside
no need for it IMO
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:21 am to Baloo
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Still costs more
Travel costs for the team might be marginally more expensive for longer flights, but not significantly so.
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makes road trips for fans nigh on impossible
non factor. Outside of the Rangers series in Arlington, any road trip for Astros fans requires flying and over night stay. Costs of flights and hotels vary, and its not automatically cheaper for shorter flights btw. I've paid more to fly from Houston to Chicago than to SF before. Hotels in Anehiem are going to be about the same as hotels in Chicago.
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makes it more difficult to watch divisional games due to the time difference
It amounts to about 12 extra WC games a year, no big deal. A bigger issue for fans watching Astros games is that FSN, which broadcasts Astros games, is not on DirecTV and has at times gone off of Comcast in some kind of pissing war between the companies.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:30 am to Hopeful Doc
quote:This is pretty much my problem with the move, especially the bolded part. I've always disliked the DH rule.
I like seeing the Astros play the Cubs and Cards four times a year. Up until the last 4-5 seasons, the NL Central was almost always wide open until the last few days of the season if you weren't the Reds. The division wasn't ever considered one of the premier divisions in baseball, but it was very competitive within itself.
Now it's a whole new set of teams and games. To boot, the old teams are now in a different league, and we won't even necessarily see them every year anymore (granted, I'm not exactly sure what this "continuous interleague play" involves).
And then, on top of that, it's almost a different game across leagues. You don't get to see pitchers try to hit. You have to carry an extra hitter that's worth a damn (and we're talking about my beloved Astros, who decided to get trade away of most of their youth for inexperience this season). I've always preferred NL baseball.
It's just weird.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:59 am to whiteside
i'm a long time natl league fan. i love seeing the cardinals play; ditto for the dodgers, cubs and several other national league clubs. the damn royal, athletics and various other shite doesn't hack it. i'm no longer buying astro tickets. hell, i can fly to atlanta or miami a few times a year and watch real baseball (i hate the DH).
Posted on 11/17/11 at 12:02 pm to whiteside
I don't hate it. I just hate how Bud extorted this out of the Astros.
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