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re: What are some hitting drills that would help to stop the chop swing?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 12:43 pm to Sellecks Moustache
Posted on 3/16/15 at 12:43 pm to Sellecks Moustache
Cut him and go recruit another kid to take his place
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:36 pm to nicholastiger
I have a child doing the same thing this year and it's so pronounced and haven't been able to fix it. I can tell him to swing level or to not chop at the ball and we can take 10 or so swings off the tee and it looks like he's swinging better but the second he sees live pitching he's back to chopping almost straight down at the ball. The bat and hands are flying down at such an angle that before his elbow drops and I can't get him to stop.
After reading guides....I think I'm going to try what they call the high tee drill so it will force him to not chop down at the ball and get him used to swinging more naturally. After coaching for 4 years this is the first time I've dealt with a bad chop in someone's swing.
After reading guides....I think I'm going to try what they call the high tee drill so it will force him to not chop down at the ball and get him used to swinging more naturally. After coaching for 4 years this is the first time I've dealt with a bad chop in someone's swing.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:43 pm to dhuck20
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Don't tell him to keep his elbow up. That's what it seems like all parents say, hence the high point he starts his swing. The bat needs to be on the same plane as the baseball, not above it.
Try to tell him to keep his back elbow tucked.
Good Lord......
Whatever you do, DO NOT give the youngster this advice.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:50 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
How often does he practice/ been practicing since it started? Kinda hard to do during the season but a week off may help as much as anything at that age. Basically forget the muscle memory he developed that caused the issue. Had to do that a few times with kids that developed the yips.
The baseball swing is one of the most simple yet complicated things I can think of.
At least now it seems like there is more comprehensive acceptance of the "basic" elements of swing than when I played at that age.
The baseball swing is one of the most simple yet complicated things I can think of.
At least now it seems like there is more comprehensive acceptance of the "basic" elements of swing than when I played at that age.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:53 pm to Sellecks Moustache
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Just reminds of when a bunch of kids were stepping out and my coach put a cinder block behind our front feet. Turns out he can't pitch worth a shite and ends up hitting all of us at least 3 times each.
Same thing happened to a rec league team I was on as a teen. Kids were pitching, and coach cycled through our few pitchers at practices to get them used to throwing from the mound again. One guy said he was a pitcher. He threw pretty hard, but every now and then one would get away. I took one to the back, and started jumping after that. Coach stacked a bunch of bats behind me so I wouldn't step back. I ended up jumping all over them, tripping in the process, and still got beaned in the shoulder.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:04 pm to RB10
Rb10, keeping your elbow up is no longer being taught anywhere in baseball. I've been to tons of clinics and you actually want kids to relax their elbows and not forcing them to be held up. When I see dads doing this to kids I explain that it's no longer considers good hitting posture.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:06 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Rb10, keeping your elbow up is no longer being taught anywhere in baseball. I've been to tons of clinics and you actually want kids to relax their elbows and not forcing them to be held up. When I see dads doing this to kids I explain that it's no longer considers good hitting posture.
It's not about the elbow, it's about saying the swing plane should be flat. That's not how you drive a baseball.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:06 pm to TU Rob
Yeah when kids are stepping out, I have 2 doing it this year....I take the field take and place it behind them while they hit. Eventually they learn to either step toward the pitcher or knee their front foot still and not bail.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:08 pm to GoldenSombrero
Golden, we haven't started the season yet. The kid just showed up two weeks ago and I haven't had much time with him to do individual drills. I have 12 kids on my team so it's hard to correct issues like that without parent help. I do tee drills with him but it's not working yet.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:11 pm to RB10
I understand that but hitting coaches across the country will tell you to relax the elbow. That high elbow stuff was being taught for years when I played and it's no longer being taught. They are actually teaching relaxed elbows and keeping your hands in tight when you swing . Short in long out. I haven't seen someone teaching high elbow for many years but you still get dads that swear by it because that's what we were taught.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:14 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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I understand that but hitting coaches across the country will tell you to relax the elbow. That high elbow stuff was being taught for years when I played and it's no longer being taught. They are actually teaching relaxed elbows and keeping your hands in tight when you swing . Short in long out. I haven't seen someone teaching high elbow for many years but you still get dads that swear by it because that's what we were taught.
Again, I wasn't commenting on the elbow, I was commenting on him claiming they should have a flat swing plane.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:18 pm to RB10
Oh I gotcha, yeah you should be driving down at the ball.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:25 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Oh I gotcha, yeah you should be driving down at the ball.
Yeah.
A good way to fix his issue is repetition off of a tee. Granted, that's not easy to do with a young player who most likely thinks tees are for babies.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:31 pm to tgrbaitn08
soft toss from a short distance, but on an actual field(not into a net or fence), facing the kid like a pitcher would be. Let him focus on hitting the bottom of the ball, and actually see where it ends up.
another thing that ive seen used, is hitting soft toss into a backstop. Find one with a concrete base and a net up too. If you hit it into the ground, it's coming back at ya hard. They learn pretty quickly.
There's also a hitting tee that funnels the ball from the top, instead of the bottom, allowing the bottom of the ball to sit free. I'll see if i can find it.
ETA: search "backspin Tee"
another thing that ive seen used, is hitting soft toss into a backstop. Find one with a concrete base and a net up too. If you hit it into the ground, it's coming back at ya hard. They learn pretty quickly.
There's also a hitting tee that funnels the ball from the top, instead of the bottom, allowing the bottom of the ball to sit free. I'll see if i can find it.
ETA: search "backspin Tee"
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:37 pm to tgrbaitn08
High tee
Posted on 3/9/17 at 4:02 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Oh I gotcha, yeah you should be driving down at the ball.
Ted Williams said the best swing was a slight upswing.
Whatever happened to that phony, anyway?
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