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re: Watching Lebron drag this Cavs team to 3 straight finals reminds me how lucky Jordan was

Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:37 am to
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:37 am to
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He has a lot of help



It's not enough against this team.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:39 am to
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:40 am to
Cake walking to the finals by staying in the east isn't a good look for him IMO
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:42 am to
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He's in the weak arse East with two other future HOFers on the roster, along with two of the best three point shooters in league history. He has a lot of help


Kevin Love's a HOFer now?
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:44 am to
43% chance as of now and likely has another 5 good years in him.

So, in other words, likely over a 50% shot, so it's not a stretch to call him a future HofFer

LINK
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:56 am to
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It's not enough against this team.


Nope, but it appears the GSW did an outstanding job managing their roster.
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:00 am to
this guy clearly gets paid to post shite takes on here every day.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:02 am to
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Nope, but it appears the GSW did an outstanding job managing their roster.


Not denying that. They knew that they needed to trump what Cleveland was bringing, and they did just that.

I just don't understand why people have this problem with the idea that Lebron doesn't have enough to beat this GS team. It was 3 all-stars vs 3 all-stars last season. Then one of those teams added another all-star, who's relatively close in talent to their opponent's best player.

Can people not do math? The team with more all-stars is going to beat the other team, unless they get another one to even up the talent.
Posted by suavecito80
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:11 am to
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:37 am to
I don't have a problem admitting that the Cavs don't have enough to beat GSW. I have a problem with the notion that he's dragging along a bunch of scrubs by himself. They probably have the second best roster in the NBA.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:41 am to
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Jordan had the best coach of all time, the best assistant coach of all time (Tex Winter),an innovative (at the time) system and 2 other hall of famers with him. As well as Kukoc, the best Euro of all time.

Meanwhile the King has Kyrie, and guys like Tristan Thompson who is averaging 3 rebounds a game. That's 6 rebounds a game less than Curry.

This picture is fitting. He's the only one doing anything:



Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:47 am to
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Kevin Love is a 4-time All-Star.


and Kyrie was a no. 1 pick in the draft just like Bron Bron. poooooor bron.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:48 am to
That's how it works huh? How many all-stars did the 2011 Mavs have?
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:48 am to
Last night:
Kyrie 38-6-3 (1 point less than Lebron)
Love 13 rebounds 6 steals

Game 2:
Love 27 (2 less than Lebron) and 7 rbs
Kyrie 19-7-2

Game 1:
Kyrie 24-3-2 (3 points less than Lebron)
Love 15 pts 21 rbs


But yeah, he's all alone

He also handpicked his coach
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Kevin Love's a HOFer now?



He's a career 20/10 guy. How many of those aren't in the HOF?
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:18 pm to
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That's how it works huh? How many all-stars did the 2011 Mavs have?


You're using one team to make your case that you don't need multiple all-stars to be a championship contender?

I'll help you out some, '04 Detroit only had one all-star as well. So that's two teams out of what, 40+ that did?

The blueprint's pretty simple, nearly every year, you need multiple all-stars to be a championship contender, otherwise your odds are pretty low. That's why GMs are trying to put together these super teams, because yes, that's how it works. I'm also confident than in-depth studies would conclude that the number of all-stars you have is directly correlated with your odds to win a championship. One or two outliers doesn't change that.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 12:23 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:28 pm to
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As well as Kukoc, the best Euro of all time.





Even Toni would say of course Dirk and he has also said Drazen was his hero and despite his untimely death Drazen was voted the best European player of all-time by FIBA, Kukoc said all European players looked up to Drazen as this European superstar.

In his few seasons, Drazen had a higher FG% than Toni, in their best seasons respectively, Drazen scored on average more PPG than Toni.

In each's best playoff stat year, Toni averaged 14.8 points per game (2003) while Drazen averaged 24.3 PPG (1992).
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:31 pm to
Why limit it to one all star? Two all stars wouldn't be a super team and they make up most of the NBA champions.

Pre-Celtics super team, the last champion to have more than 2 was the Pistons in 1990 with Thomas, Rodman, Dummars

Also you forgot some one all star teams: '11 Mavs, '04 Pistons, '03 Spurs, '98 Bulls, '94 & '95 Rockets, '91 Bulls, '78 Bullets, '75 Warriors and I only went back to the 70s
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:32 pm to
Maybe you should look at GS/CLE 1
Posted by Gings5
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:46 pm to
These points are exactly what Jordan lovers don't understand. He had everything around him. And when he didn't, he lost! Before Pippen - L. Before - Grant - L. Before Phil - L.

That and they're all old and crusty now with bastard children and an ugly wife.
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