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re: Video of austin dillons crash at end of race

Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:18 am to
Posted by pdubya76
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:18 am to
I thought that there was no way he was coming out of that. The shearing into the fence is what scares me. My wife said it.... Last lap at Daytona in the #3 and horrific crash. Kinda eerie
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:33 am to
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This is exactly what Nascar wants
Explain further. Because every single rule NASCAR has put into place over the last 10 years has been to further increase safety of the driver not the other way around. If this wreck happens in 2003 or 2004 the driver is dead.

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Its also part of the reason that the Nascar sucks balls now...
No. NASCAR is struggling because they go to too many tracks where the pack gets spread out and the average fan doesn't appreciate that type of racing. Let's deal in facts not opinion today Lanier
Posted by ForeverLSU02
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:39 am to
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Last lap at Daytona in the #3 and horrific crash. Kinda eerie
and Jr. wins
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:40 am to
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If this wreck happens in 2003 or 2004 the driver is dead.



Geoff Bodine is still alive, so not really.

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No. NASCAR is struggling because they go to too many tracks where the pack gets spread out and the average fan doesn't appreciate that type of racing. Let's deal in facts not opinion today Lanier


Nascar sucks because they have far too many tri-ovals and not enough short-tracks, which is the kind of racing that kept it interesting. The COT has basically turned NASCAR into a crappy version of INDY.
Posted by pdubya76
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:41 am to
The ghost of Dale Earnhardt
Posted by MrBiriwa
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:46 am to
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The ghost of Dale Earnhardt


Couldnt pay me to drive the #3 car....that is crazy he wealked away from that
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:07 am to
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Last lap at Daytona in the #3 and horrific crash.


If you didn't know the outcome of both wrecks and watched them one after the other you'd think that Austin Dillon's was the one that was the fatal crash. Dale Sr's wasn't really that dramatic in the fact that it wasn't a huge pile up with cars flying all over the place. It was him and Sterling Marlin.

It's amazing how safe the cars have become.

And for what's killed NASCAR, it's lack of personality, too many cookie cutter tracks, every team running an exact same IROC car and lack of parity across the board.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:18 am to
The Crashed that have Changed NASCAR

Talks about accidents that led to safety advancements.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:42 am to
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Explain further. Because every single rule NASCAR has put into place over the last 10 years has been to further increase safety of the driver not the other way around. If this wreck happens in 2003 or 2004 the driver is dead.


They are all basically racing the same type of cars and designed to run in those big packs which in turn create these big pile ups that cause more injuries.

They can make the cars as safe as they want but 195 MPH crashes will still have injuries and they are causing more of them by the style of racing they want.

This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 10:44 am
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:55 am to
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They can make the cars as safe as they want but 195 MPH crashes will still have injuries and they are causing more of them by the style of racing they want.

Are you trying to tell me that letting these cars run around the track at 230 mph (I don't know what this generation of cars can do, but I'm pretty sure they're the fastest) is safer than letter them run around at 202 mph max? I can only think of 4 occurrences of cars flying into the catch fence since the turn of the century. With HANS devices and SAFER barriers I'm not sure it matters much, but I don't trust these dudes to run around at IndyCar speeds. I'm more worried about accidents at Cali, Michigan, Pocono, and maybe even The Glen, and fan safety, which wouldn't be helped by removing the plates.
Posted by purplepylon
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:08 am to
Wow. 200mph to 0 and he walks away.
What if that happened on lap 10 instead of the last lap? They'd have to cancel the race, it would take at least a day to rebuild that fence
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:14 am to
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They are all basically racing the same type of cars and designed to run in those big packs which in turn create these big pile ups that cause more injuries.

They can make the cars as safe as they want but 195 MPH crashes will still have injuries and they are causing more of them by the style of racing they want.


I haven't been a big fan in a while, but hasn't NASCAR moved away from pack racing and drafting?
Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:18 am to
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What if that happened on lap 10 instead of the last lap? They'd have to cancel the race, it would take at least a day to rebuild that fence
More like a couple weeks probably. 2 of the catch fence's posts were pulled out of the concrete. I imagine they'll have to stress test all the foundation and all of the fence.

To your point, had it happened at the beginning, the race would be canceled and possibly rescheduled if possible.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:19 am to
Saw the video this morning, and two things stood out to me.

First was that the cars are designed to protect the driver so much that he was okay after that wreck and wasn't killed.

Two was MAJOR props to the designers of the protective fence around the track for that car not plowing into the crowd. That could've been horrible.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:25 am to
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I haven't been a big fan in a while, but hasn't NASCAR moved away from pack racing and drafting?
Absolutely
Posted by LanierSpots
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 12:17 pm to
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I haven't been a big fan in a while, but hasn't NASCAR moved away from pack racing and drafting?


LOL. No

And the famous "Green,White,Checkered" guarantees that there will be a big pack fighting for the lead for two laps.

Posted by Rig
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 12:37 pm to
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And the famous "Green,White,Checkered" guarantees that there will be a big pack fighting for the lead for two laps.

The pack spreads even on a green white checkered for the majority of tracks. You usually have 2 or 3 cars separate themselves at places not named Talladega, Daytona, Martinsville, and Bristol.

NASCAR today is widely unpopular because you get a thousand snoozers like this upcoming weekend's race at Kentucky where there's nothing there to stand out and NASCAR doesn't outfit cars to stay together
Posted by Knocksville
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by SoDakHawk
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 1:04 pm to
Just caught some video of this crash. While the car did go from 200 to 0 the catch fence did give an awful lot and "softened" the blow as opposed to running directly into a solid wall. As the car lay sitting on the track and another car hit it full on, that's the blow that made me wince.

The pack racing of restrictor plate racing is exciting but dangerous. I would rather see them get rid of the restrictor plates and make other modifications to the car's body that will reduce the speeds yet still allow cars that are dialed in to break away from the pack and maintain their lead without getting reeled in.

Agree that short track racing is fun to watch. Bristol is one of my favorite tracks. There it's not about the speed it's more about watching these cars bang their way around a bull ring and knowing that the crashes and banging will happen but are at a generally low enough speed the drivers can walk away unhurt.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 1:16 pm to
It would be interesting to see the view from his in car camera's during the wreck.
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