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re: USA Today: Lebron is frustrated and concerned with Cleveland's offseason
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:53 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:53 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:I love that CLE didn't rehire the GM that LeBron openly said should get an extension, and people still hold on to this silly narrative.
Maybe he should have been a better GM.....
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:56 pm to shel311
Why pay a GM when you already have LeGM?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:57 pm to shel311
quote:
That's not hindering any move they could possibly make, they're way over the cap as is
For the next 3 years he gets paid $16.4 m, $17.47 m, $18.5 m. I'm sure they'd rather operate over the cap with multiple players that have better numbers than 8 ppg and 9 rbg, shooting 50% ft. He, along with Shumpert and JR, are definitely hindering other moves.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:00 pm to JetsetNuggs
quote:Are you saying they shouldn't have signed him at all?
For the next 3 years he gets paid $16.4 m, $17.47 m, $18.5 m
You do realize they'd likely have zero titles if he wasn't on the team 2 seasons ago, right? He was a difference maker in a series as close as that one.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:09 pm to shel311
quote:
The Crawford signing stung. The Cavs were in the running for the three-time Sixth Man of the Year. But the Cavs offered just the minimum salary ($2.3 million a season) when they had the taxpayer midlevel ($5.19 million per season) available.
James was active in recruiting Crawford, and Crawford appreciated James’ efforts to get him to Cleveland. James did his part. But the Timberwolves offered $4.45 million a season. Instead, the Cavs gave part of the taxpayer midlevel exception to Turkish big man Cedi Osman, who is unlikely to make an impact in 2017-18.
Lowballing must legitimately be in Dan Gilbert's blood.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:10 pm to c on z
quote:GM LeBron tho!!!
The Crawford signing stung. The Cavs were in the running for the three-time Sixth Man of the Year. But the Cavs offered just the minimum salary ($2.3 million a season) when they had the taxpayer midlevel ($5.19 million per season) available.
James was active in recruiting Crawford
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:10 pm to shel311
wouldn't rule out a Miami return.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:12 pm to c on z
That almost seems like an intentional frick you to Lebron.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:13 pm to c on z
quote:
Is it wrong for me to be more excited about the 2018 offseason than the 2017-2018 season itself?
Someone listened to LeBatard today
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:17 pm to shel311
I'm saying that it's a bit ridiculous for Lebron to be frustrated with the lack of moves.
It came out that he was taking a hard stance to sign TT and the Cavs were forced into it because they had the same agent. It was fairly obvious they didn't want to pay him that much but they did it because they wanted to appease Lebron and now he's mad, but it's basically his fault.
He can only blame himself for the lack of moves. They're capped out because of players he almost demanded be resigned. TT got paid after they won, so yeah, he probably shouldn't have been resigned especially if Lebron is going to leave anyway.
It came out that he was taking a hard stance to sign TT and the Cavs were forced into it because they had the same agent. It was fairly obvious they didn't want to pay him that much but they did it because they wanted to appease Lebron and now he's mad, but it's basically his fault.
He can only blame himself for the lack of moves. They're capped out because of players he almost demanded be resigned. TT got paid after they won, so yeah, he probably shouldn't have been resigned especially if Lebron is going to leave anyway.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:26 pm to JetsetNuggs
quote:Is it?
I'm saying that it's a bit ridiculous for Lebron to be frustrated with the lack of moves.
quote:
Further exacerbating James’ frustration is the Cavs were close to making a deal for then-Chicago Bulls All-Star Jimmy Butler the day Gilbert decided to mutually part ways with Griffin and Redden, two people familiar with negotiations told USA TODAY Sports. They requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly on the negotiations.
quote:Ah, the "GM LeBron" narrative again. He doesn't have as much power as you seem to think, that has been made very clear.
He can only blame himself for the lack of moves
quote:This is incorrect. TT got paid in October 2015, the beginning of the season they won it all, much before. Hopefully that provides a bit more clarity into how that deal was instrumental in CLE getting a title, and a few million less wouldn't change a single thing, and they haven't missed out on any players due to TT making more than you think he should have.
TT got paid after they won, so yeah, he probably shouldn't have been resigned especially if Lebron is going to leave anyway.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:29 pm to JetsetNuggs
Lebron doesn't need to partner up with another superstar. He has two very good teammates in Irving and Love. He will be hardpressed to a find better situation unless he goes to BOS, OKC or HOU.
The Cavs need bench help STAT. Trade a couple guys to move up in the draft, sign a couple of free agents.
Can I also ask why aren't we looking harder at replacing Lue?
The Cavs need bench help STAT. Trade a couple guys to move up in the draft, sign a couple of free agents.
Can I also ask why aren't we looking harder at replacing Lue?
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:32 pm to Tigeralum2008
quote:
Can I also ask why aren't we looking harder at replacing Lue?
They already extended him for another 5 years after the 2016 title.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:32 pm to Tigeralum2008
quote:He does if he wants to compete with a healthy GS.
Lebron doesn't need to partner up with another superstar.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:34 pm to shel311
You got me on the timing of the contract but still, who's to say another player wouldn't have helped them win it all with a more team-future friendly contract?
I'm not one to say that Lebron is the gm, because he isn't, but his word definitely has sway because no one wants to piss him off and see the best player on the planet leave.
He pushed for all three of their bad contracts and it's coming back to bite the team. The management is bad also, but he's complicit in it and shouldn't throw stones. That's my point.
I'm not one to say that Lebron is the gm, because he isn't, but his word definitely has sway because no one wants to piss him off and see the best player on the planet leave.
He pushed for all three of their bad contracts and it's coming back to bite the team. The management is bad also, but he's complicit in it and shouldn't throw stones. That's my point.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:43 pm to JetsetNuggs
quote:Pretty sure they couldn't pay another player anywhere near that amount, likely only an MLE, so i think you're coming up with examples that aren't exactly realistic.
You got me on the timing of the contract but still, who's to say another player wouldn't have helped them win it all with a more team-future friendly contract?
quote:Doesn't seem so with the Griffin fiasco.
but his word definitely has sway because no one wants to piss him off and see the best player on the planet leave.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:49 pm to David Ricky
This is so bizarre. He basically made Gilbert bend over and let him go in raw. Did a piss poor job at constructing a team by insisting guys like Thompson get their big bucks. Blames Gilbert when GSW is so good no one is touching them. I still think anyone who thinks Gilbert canned Griffin without input from Lebron is delusional. In the end though, Lebron brought Gilbert and the Cavs a title so there should be no ill will. That was the price Gilbert had to pay and he knew it. It will be fascinating next offseason when Gilbert writes a tell all letter exposing what really happened.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:53 pm to ShamelessPel
quote:This is what someone says when they don't want to admit they were just incorrect.
I still think anyone who thinks Gilbert canned Griffin without input from Lebron is delusional.
It's well documented that LeBron liked Griffin and wanted him to remain with CLE. Hell, it's on the record.
Anything otherwise, like I said, is just you not wanting to admit LeBron isn't calling the shots as much as you thought he was.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:58 pm to ShamelessPel
quote:
I still think anyone who thinks Gilbert canned Griffin without input from Lebron is delusional.
From the article:
James, who was not consulted about the Griffin decision, had appreciated what Griffin did to put Cleveland in position to reach the Finals and compete for championships in three consecutive seasons and James said so on Twitter the night Griffin was told he wouldn’t be back.
I'll take the source of a USA Today writer over anonymous message board poster when it comes to who's delusional or not.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:19 pm to monkeybutt
Read between lines folks. You think that either the Gilbert or James camp would admit that Lebron had input? 0%. All it does is make LBJ look bad, which does nothing positive for anybody.
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