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re: UFC Fight Night 70-something - Louis Smolka vs. Paddy Hooligan - Dublin, Ireland

Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by DirklasDaDirk
St. Martin Parish
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:06 pm to
Rousey vs Cyborg is happening at UFC 200.. jeez, there's too many gullible people here
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 9:09 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:15 am to
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Bringing up the potential of a fight doesn't mean there is a black cloud hanging over Rousey. It's up to the challenger to make weight. It's silly to me to criticize the champion for not moving up to fight a known steroid user and someone who has failed the "smell test" for years. You want the champ? Make weight.

Rousey is going to succeed with or without Cyborg. Cyborg's success is connected to Rousey. Rousey's success is not connected to Cyborg


Rousey has fought at 145 no reason she can't fight there now so we get to see the top 2 p4p fight each other.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:12 am to
Rousey vs Holm announced for Jan 2 card
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32603 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:25 am to
There is no women's 145lbs division in the UFC.

Just like there is no super HW division. I highly doubt they'd let Hunt/Bigfoot II take place @ 275lbs.

But if Gina Carano wanted to fight Ronda at 145lbs.....
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:28 am to
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Shes relevant because shes debated best woman in world


Debatable because she's almost certainly not the best (horrible, horrible opponents) nor a woman.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:30 am to
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You sound like a fricking pathetic groupie. Stop white knight please.


I'm just stating facts. Call it whatever you want and keep getting butthurt about it.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:31 am to
Wait, what happened to Miesha? Is she gonna fight Cyborg now?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:37 am to
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Cyborg was known well before rousey was in ufc. Saying her success depends on rousey is silly




Cyborg is known by MMA junkies and nobody else. Ronda Rousey is well-known outside of the MMA scene and draws 7-figure pay days. How much does Invicta pay Mangirl to beat absolute nobodies?
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:38 am to
Dude, You're pathetic. Just stop. There's stating facts and then there's putting on armor and hopping on your horse.
You do realize Rousey isn't going to frick you for sticking up for her on Tigerdroppings, right??


Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18985 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:06 am to
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Rousey vs Holm announced for Jan 2 card
Interesting I thought they would give Holm at least another 2 fights before a title shot
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:27 am to
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This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 10:01 am
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:34 am to
Belt thing i can be ok with.

But no one cares about the belt. Its a paper title.everyone says tomato can division.

No bely on line fight a catch weight or at 145 where you have fought before. Cement that legacy and a huge payday
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:36 am to
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What am I missing? I don't think he's being unreasonable. Hopefully I'm not considered a white knight / groupie because I think Cyborg should have to make 135 if she wants a shot at the champ.


There is absolutely no reason to think she can make 135(or 140 even) and even if she could why would you want her to? You want to see them fight because they are the top 2 P4P, you get that at 145.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:38 am to
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This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 10:01 am
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:42 am to
Multiple ufc champs have gone up or fought catch weight. Hell bj had 2 belts. Leave your title at home amd give fans what they want. Hiding behind 135 is running. Leave your belt and lets fight.

Only reason she doesnt is fear of losing. From her or dana. Because the money would be enormous
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:45 am to
Has dana ever been shy to make a fight happen? Hes never had this hardcore stance before. Thats why there is catchweight
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:32 am to
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Dude, You're pathetic. Just stop. There's stating facts and then there's putting on armor and hopping on your horse.
You do realize Rousey isn't going to frick you for sticking up for her on Tigerdroppings, right??


You seem very emotionally invested in your stance.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:34 am to
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There is absolutely no reason to think she can make 135


Yes there is. People have made bigger cuts in the past, that's all the reason I need.

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even if she could why would you want her to?


So that the fight happens.

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ou want to see them fight because they are the top 2 P4P, you get that at 145.


No, you don't get that at 145. The only way you get that is 135, which is why she needs to cut the weight.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15190 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:38 am to
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Multiple ufc champs have gone up or fought catch weight. Hell bj had 2 belts. Leave your title at home amd give fans what they want. Hiding behind 135 is running. Leave your belt and lets fight.

Only reason she doesnt is fear of losing. From her or dana. Because the money would be enormous



Let's say Mangirl wins. (S)he can't have the belt, because (s)he isn't in that class. Do you create a new weight class just to justify her? (S)he's not that good or marketable that you create a weight class with no other decent fighters in it just to give her a belt and shot at Rousey. If (s)he does win, (s)he may have a bigger reputation, but (s)he still has no weight class.

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Has dana ever been shy to make a fight happen? Hes never had this hardcore stance before.


Actually, he has stood firm before dealing with Fedor. Mangirl and her team have been extremely arrogant in dealing with this and have been making really stupid arguments with the whole infertility crap that they spewed. They made their bed with that nonsense and Dana White is making them sleep in it.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 10:41 am
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43570 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:15 am to
apparently rousey vs holm next. I think holm needs more time before she is ready.
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