UFC 260: Miocic vs Ngannou

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Michal Oleksiejczuk -150 vs. Modestas Bukauskas +125, light heavyweight

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Went to St. Thomas Aquinas in Hammond. Will be cheering for the guy

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Sean O'Malley -300

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Hope that clown gets smoked

This should be Woodley's last chance to stay in the UFC, if he loses he's done. Hopefully Sugar learned how to check a leg kick and ends Almeida quickly. Hopefully Stipe wins, I'd rather see him fight Jones than Ngannou.

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Abubakar Nurmagomedov -

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Lost his only match so far by submission in the first round, those boys are a different breed, but won't all win in perpetuity so not sure how confident i'd be here.

Also think Stipe will win

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Sean O'Malley

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Seems like only yesterday he blew his knee out completely. Can't belive he's fighting again so soon.

Vegas knows how to set traps for the uninformed. Stipe gonna bring the pain.

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idiots like Rogan hype up Ngannou as some kind of super hero.

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I understand it’s rogan’s job to hype the fighters as instructed by the ufc. But he still has to call the fight as is if he is suppose to be an mma expert. His call for Izzy/Jan was atrocious.

The sentence is hyperbolic.. For effect.

I obviously know Rogan's resume. I know his expertise. The term was used to indicate how much he tends to overhype trendy fighters.

Case in point, him saying years ago that fricking Rhonda Rousey could beat up bantam weight men and Floyd Mayweather. That was as idiotic of a statement by a supposed "expert" as you'll ever hear.

He got caught up in Dana's machine. It happene, but it's his biggest flaw as a commentator.

He did the same thing with Izzy. The commentary on the Blachovic v. Adesanya fight was just embarrassing. DC did the same thing, so much so that they actually swayed their own eyes and couldn't belive Izzy lost the fight so handidly...

The point is, Rogan has a history of doing this kind of stuff. He gets too swayed too easily by flash and he has hyped Ngannou so much that he can affect the public's opinion of fighters and sway betting lines.

Ngannou may very well beat the brakes off of Stipe, but the champ should not be an underdog. A pick em, maybe, but that obviously doesn't get as much action for Vegas. That betting line just doenst make any sense.

Fair argument. I am a fanboy of Rogan so whenever he’s attacked I tend to get defensive and that clouds my judgement.

I’m just not so convinced Rogan has that much influence over Vegas’ betting line, but that’s my own speculation. Maybe that is a factor involved, and maybe it’s a considerable one like you suggest because of how many people his reach extends to. It’s just hard to speculate on something like that in my mind since Joe does have expertise in MMA, as well as a genuine fan of the sport, and Vegas has expertise in setting lines where they come out on top, and a genuine interest in doing so.

My gut says the smart money bets on Stipe no matter what the line says. This early line lies where it does due in part to some of the reasons you’ve brought up, and probably a bit of other things unmentioned.

I think there’s a lot of hype around Francis, but I also think Stipe for whatever reason doesn’t get the respect he deserves in terms of being the greatest heavy weight champion. So there’s a crossroads being met here where by Francis gets relatively inexplicable hype and Stipe gets relatively inexplicable doubt.

Perhaps the confusion here is created by intentional design. Or perhaps Vegas and Joe know something we don’t. Regardless, I’m looking forward to seeing how it plays out, and wouldn’t be disappointed by either outcome so long as it’s a good fight.