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Posted on 6/29/15 at 9:55 am to lsusa
quote:At 11 years old, you should be teaching the kids how to improve their skill level for when they get older and shite actually matters. Billy Bob Guidry was more concerned about winning a meaningless game than helping his players improve. Little Johnny isnt going to be able to run the clock out in baseball when he gets older
The contest they were playing that day was timed. Both coaches knew it before it started. The winning coach was playing by the rules.
I agree that's not normally how it's played But in this case it was...so strategy was legit.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:01 am to lsupride87
Coach made the call, they won the game. More importantly he made sure they had another game to play that day. How foolish it would be to not use a strategy and lose. Now the kids are not playing another game, which is why they sign up anyway.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:22 am to EastNastySwag
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The worst parents of all sports are softball/ baseball parents.
Agreed. the WORST. I know a few that live on mcdonalds and will forego and their car payment so their undersized brat has his private lessons and plays 5 seasons a year. Nevermind that he wont have a shoulder by the time he's 19. It should embarrass them but it doesnt
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:25 am to RemyLeBeau
quote:They are 11 years old. The coaches main motivation should be teaching the kids how to improve their game for when they are 17-18 years old. This doesnt help them at all. The coach that teaches the kids proper baseball fundamentals at 11 over using some bullshite tactic that doesnt exist in real baseball, is going to be the one that actually helps create good players
How foolish it would be to not use a strategy and lose
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:33 am to jac1280
Damn, went to a baseball game and a soccer game broke out.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:34 am to lsupride87
I believe you missed my point. By doing so they are playing more games. The only reason it is timed is to get enough games in on a single day, hence the "BS" tactic. I've seen coaches do this at majors level of competition where the players are fundamentally sound.
At 11 years old they should know strategies, even if it is not prevalent in older ages.
At 11 years old they should know strategies, even if it is not prevalent in older ages.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:37 am to RemyLeBeau
quote:I believe you missed my point. If a coach does a tactic that does not exist in actual baseball in order to win with an 11 year old, it shows me he is also willing to teach shitty technique and fundamentals in also to "win now" instead of actually developing the players
I believe you missed my point. By doing so they are playing more games. The only reason it is timed is to get enough games in on a single day, hence the "BS" tactic. I've seen coaches do this at majors level of competition where the players are fundamentally sound.
At 11 years old they should know strategies, even if it is not prevalent in older ages.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:39 am to lsupride87
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They are 11 years old. The coaches main motivation should be teaching the kids how to improve their game for when they are 17-18 years old. This doesnt help them at all. The coach that teaches the kids proper baseball fundamentals at 11 over using some bullshite tactic that doesnt exist in real baseball, is going to be the one that actually helps create good players
The coach in this case used strategy to allow/ensure his kids played another game.. More reps is the best instruction you can give these kids.. Taking pitches and understanding the situation is part baseball strategy regardless of a time limit.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:42 am to TROLA
quote:I would have to be there to see. Was he doing it so the "kids could play another game and work on getting better" or did he do it so "they COULD MOTHER frickIN WIN AND GET THAT TROPHY BAW!"
The coach in this case used strategy to allow/ensure his kids played another game..
This post was edited on 6/29/15 at 10:43 am
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:45 am to lsupride87
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I would have to be there to see. Was he doing it so the "kids could play another game and work on getting better" or did he do it so "they COULD MOTHER frickIN WIN AND GET THAT TROPHY BAW!"
Pride is always involved in decisions made during sports
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:45 am to jac1280
I give you props for umpiring. Those parents are absolutely ridiculous. The worst thing about it is that the younger you get the worse they are. I have done 7 and 8 coach pitch and some of those parents/coaches need to jump off a cliff.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:14 am to jac1280
I think it is great. Using a little game theory in little league. Show the kid's that swinging away is not always the answer in life.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:54 am to lsupride87
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I would have to be there to see. Was he doing it so the "kids could play another game and work on getting better" or did he do it so "they COULD MOTHER frickIN WIN AND GET THAT TROPHY BAW!"
According to the OP, it was a bracket game so it's win or go home. So the kids got to play another game. Just as importantly, he didn't need to send his pitcher out for another inning.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 12:15 pm to jac1280
I'm confused, I thought "winning at any cost" was the rule in 11 year old travel baseball?
Here is what it tells me: The coach doesn't have enough confidence in his players to be able to score additional runs in this inning, and he doesn't have enough confidence in his players to be able to keep the lead the next innings.
Here is what it tells me: The coach doesn't have enough confidence in his players to be able to score additional runs in this inning, and he doesn't have enough confidence in his players to be able to keep the lead the next innings.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 12:19 pm to jac1280
It's bush league shite
Bat normally, and if time runs out, so be it. If not, get out there and get those final 3 outs.
fricking grow a set.
Bat normally, and if time runs out, so be it. If not, get out there and get those final 3 outs.
fricking grow a set.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 12:24 pm to EastNastySwag
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The worst parents of all sports are softball/ baseball parents
This x 1000. Had no problem with mine wanting to take up golf in place of baseball.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 12:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
Here is what it tells me: The coach doesn't have enough confidence in his players to be able to score additional runs in this inning, and he doesn't have enough confidence in his players to be able to keep the lead the next innings.
At that age a team can be drastically different from one inning to the next.
At that age a team can be drastically different from one inning to the next.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 12:33 pm to RemyLeBeau
They didn't need anymore runs and he wanted to save pitching. A decent pitcher at 11 is gold for a coach. If you have 2 decent pitchers you are stacked. Saving pitchers at this age is all about strategy.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 1:15 pm to RemyLeBeau
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At that age a team can be drastically different from one inning to the next.
If that's the case, perhaps they should not be playing travel ball.
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