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re: TNT listed Games 5, 6, and 7 of the Rockets/Warriors series as (Not Necessary)

Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:27 am to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:27 am to
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and still can't beat the Warriors MINUS the reigning league MVP.
Means nothing, they have tons of depth and the roster has been the same for what 3 or 4 years now. They'd beat all but a handful of teams in the league AT most in a series even without Curry.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:28 am to
Or you could go with the entire season like most normal people and see Hou was #25 in Opp. ppg
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:29 am to
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Or you could go with the entire season like most normal people and see Hou was #25 in Opp. ppg

right because the whole season is more indicative of how they are playing currently than a more recent sample. AND you used Opp PPG. Please remove yourself from any hoops discussion you're an idiot.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 10:30 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:29 am to
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They dont need to be their best to win, not even close to it actually.


I don't think it's a done deal that the Warriors complete the sweep, that's all I'm saying.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:30 am to
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They'd beat all but a handful of teams in the league AT most in a series even without Curry.



Right ... and those handful of teams would likely have two Superstars...like the Rockets supposedly do ... except, in reality, they don't.

The Rockets have a scoring machine when he's on who couldn't or wouldn't guard my Grandma ... and an overpaid gimpy supreme waste of talent lazy cancer.
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:33 am to
The rockets have some good individual talent. They just don't play well as a team. Especially on defense.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:44 am to
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The defense has been excellent.

And the Offense has been very good too, they are down from their season averages but when you consider HOU is the 8th ranked defense dating back to Mar 1 (tied w GSW) then you can't expect them to score at the rate they did in the reg season.



I've watched every minute of both games and if you think GS isn't playing sloppy as hell, then we don't have to argue about it.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:49 am to
Haven't seen that at all. They've been under their season average in turnovers both games. Sloppy play should lead to a bump in turnovers no?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:53 am to
And you used an arbitrary date with no link or general stat.

eFG%- 23rd
Opp FG%- 19th
Def Eff- 20th
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:56 am to
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That is just the kind of motivation that will lead the Rockets to getting their shite together and winning the series.


- Boom
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:59 am to
be careful.

Boom telling you that you clearly don't follow NBA basketball, shouldn't be in a basketball discussion here, and calling you an idiot is only the first step. He'll make it personal next and then start stalking your on social media.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 11:00 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:00 am to
Hey don't post your social media accounts here if you want to don't want people to comment. When you bring that attention on yourself you're inviting comments.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 11:01 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:03 am to
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eFG%- 23rd
Opp FG%- 19th
Def Eff- 20th


who cares? They've had a lot of roster turnover/there are guys who played key roles in those season long numbers play no role on the team now and vice versa. Meanwhile if you look at the stats since Mar 1 you know when they have the same guys playing who are playing now it's easy to see what stats are relevant and which ones aren't.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 11:04 am
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:06 am to
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Sloppy play should lead to a bump in turnovers no?



Their TO% is up.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27324 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:06 am to
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Right ... and those handful of teams would likely have two Superstars...like the Rockets supposedly do ... except, in reality, they don't. The Rockets have a scoring machine when he's on who couldn't or wouldn't guard my Grandma ... and an overpaid gimpy supreme waste of talent lazy cancer.
I don't think anyone here, even Rockets fans, would say Dwight Howard is a superstar. He's not even a star at this point.

He's an average center.

He's declined a lot over the past 2 seasons, but especially this season.


The Rockets were expected to do big things IF they had Harden, star player Dwight Howard, and borderline all-star Ty Lawson.

Well, Dwight has fallen off big-time this season and Ty Lawson looks like he's not even good enough to be in the NBA.

That leaves the Rockets with 1 star player in Harden. Westbrook didn't make the playoffs last season with himself as the only star player for most of the year.

It's not surprising the Rockets are an average team, even if you remove the supposed dysfunction.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:10 am to
not per ESPN it isn't
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:14 am to
Disagree, what went down were his opportunities to score, he had the highest fg% of his career. REB % and BLK % both the highest since he's been in Houston. D12 is far from average but the team offensive philosophy has done him a real disservice.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27324 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:25 am to
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Disagree, what went down were his opportunities to score, he had the highest fg% of his career. REB % and BLK % both the highest since he's been in Houston. D12 is far from average but the team offensive philosophy has done him a real disservice.
His fg% is the highest of his career BECAUSE he gets so few opportunities to score on his own.

His shots come almost exclusively from easy dunks and put-backs.

It's not like he's scoring at will and they just aren't getting him the ball. Whenever he does get the ball he turns it over, gets fouled and misses his free throws, misses the shot, and sometimes makes it.

His rebound% and block% are virtually the same as it's been since he's been in Houston. Technically it's the highest, but you are talking minuscule differences. For example, 2 seasons ago his reb% and blk% were 20.1 and 4.0... and this season it's 20.2 and 4.1. Nobody would brag that it's the "highest of his time in Houston" unless you were trying to be disingenuous.

He's clearly not the force on defense that he used to be.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 11:27 am
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:31 am to
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His fg% is the highest of his career BECAUSE he gets so few opportunities to score on his own.


Exactly. He is also not commanding double teams like he did in his dominant years.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:32 am to
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Whenever he does get the ball he turns it over
oh yea his turnover rate is down too

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His fg% is the highest of his career BECAUSE he gets so few opportunities to score on his own.

His shots come almost exclusively from easy dunks and put-backs.

Most of his points always came from dunks and putbacks. If he wouldve gotten the ball in the post his points would've gone up but his %s down to pretty much where he has been since he's been in HOU it's been a change in philosophy more than anything that's affected his impact.

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He's clearly not the force on defense that he used to be.
Not as good as he once was as a rim protector paint but the FO really screwed the pooch with the PFs they all suck which leads to HOU having the worst Def reb rate in the league even though D12 is still top 5.
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