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re: The Rejection of Myron Rolle
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:08 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:08 pm to Adam Banks
He was nowhere near a guaranteed first round pick. He made the right choice going to Oxford. His only mistake was sitting down for this article because it makes him look whiny and delusional about his stock.
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:15 pm to Keys Open Doors
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He was nowhere near a guaranteed first round pick. He made the right choice going to Oxford. His only mistake was sitting down for this article because it makes him look whiny and delusional about his stock.
Yeah I know I was just going under the articles assumptions. Under the articles premise it was a terrible decision unless he truly cared about high academics in which case the NFL was correct.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:20 pm to barry
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If you are a star, sure. If you are an average player though, they will have no problems cutting you because of philosophical differences if you will.
Ryan Fitzpatrick got a 1580 on his SAT, majored in Econ at Harvard, and has managed to stay in the league for 9 years despite being a subpar player.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:26 pm to FleurDeLonestar
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Yet there is a third explanation, one that is perhaps more likely and at the same time more difficult for him to accept. It was not Rolle who was uninterested in the NFL, but the NFL who was uninterested in him, or perhaps even scared to have him around. He never kept his desire to become a neurosurgeon a secret, and by 2010, the brain trauma issue in the NFL began to metastasize and enter public consciousness. Given Rolle's activism on health care-related issues while at Florida State and Oxford, it's easy to see teams imagining Rolle becoming an unofficial spokesperson on brain trauma, just as Chris Kluwe and Brendon Ayanbadejo took on similar roles concerning gay rights. Significantly, both were released in 2013. Perhaps the NFL wasn't scared of Rolle simply because of his intelligence, but because they were afraid of how he might use that intelligence.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:38 pm to FleurDeLonestar
Great kid. I don't think the NFL rejected him because of his academic prowess. He just wasn't good enough.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:43 pm to Keys Open Doors
How does he come off as whiny and delusional? He's not the one making quotes about how the NFL did him wrong, that was the author. Rolle comes off as happy, well-adjusted, and excited about what he has done in his life. He doesn't sound whiny or delusional at all.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:43 pm to FleurDeLonestar
dude didn't live up to the hype he had coming out of high school (believe some had him as the #1 overall prospect)... it's not a shock he didn't make it in the league.
still a pretty cool story.
still a pretty cool story.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:46 pm to FleurDeLonestar
Nice article. That guy is amazing. I want to be more like him.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:53 pm to THRILLHO
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Ryan Fitzpatrick got a 1580 on his SAT, majored in Econ at Harvard, and has managed to stay in the league for 9 years despite being a subpar player.
And is a white guy who plays quarterback. To my knowledge, he also didn't take off a year of football to study at Oxford.
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:56 pm to Baloo
It's hard to say how much of the attribution is from the writer's creative license with the truth (from the Hun School to Rolle's draft stock to Rolle's flaming out in the NFL), but the article is basically a slight variation on that piece of shite article on Perriloux last week.
In that article, Perriloux made it clear what he thought. The author agreed with him, but he didn't to stretch his conclusions because Perriloux said everything for him. Rolle is too smart to do that, but he still gives the writer enough to run his pre-fabricated article without making it a straight, unsourced opinion piece.
When it comes to Oxford, Med School, and everything outside of the NFL experience, Rolle sounds fine, as he is an intelligent achiever who has a lot to be proud of in his life.
In that article, Perriloux made it clear what he thought. The author agreed with him, but he didn't to stretch his conclusions because Perriloux said everything for him. Rolle is too smart to do that, but he still gives the writer enough to run his pre-fabricated article without making it a straight, unsourced opinion piece.
When it comes to Oxford, Med School, and everything outside of the NFL experience, Rolle sounds fine, as he is an intelligent achiever who has a lot to be proud of in his life.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:05 pm to barry
quote:lolwut
You think Goodell was excited about having a future neurosurgeon playing football? The fix was in
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:05 pm to Keys Open Doors
Fact is that the kid is a good athlete that was also very intelligent. In the end though, it was the opposite of what they try to claim here. His perception as an athlete was actually overblown based on his intelligence rather than vice versa.
The kid was a good not great player. Tons of players get all-american in college and amount to diddly in the NFL. This goes back to similar reactions to the Michael Sam issue. The guy was rated no higher than late third round at best and all the way to the 7th round. He comes out that he's gay and all of a sudden will his stock be hurt by it is the narrative.
Rolle was overrated in college and much like some others couldn't handle things in the NFL. The thing he did was refuse to be who he was, so I don't blame coaches for not buying it. You're a smart kid that clearly has done some great things. If people ask you about your opinion, you should respond in kind rather than trying to fit a part.
I honestly think his refusal to mix the two worlds is what turned people off. You can't be dedicated the way he was to his academics only to ignore it all of a sudden.
The kid was a good not great player. Tons of players get all-american in college and amount to diddly in the NFL. This goes back to similar reactions to the Michael Sam issue. The guy was rated no higher than late third round at best and all the way to the 7th round. He comes out that he's gay and all of a sudden will his stock be hurt by it is the narrative.
Rolle was overrated in college and much like some others couldn't handle things in the NFL. The thing he did was refuse to be who he was, so I don't blame coaches for not buying it. You're a smart kid that clearly has done some great things. If people ask you about your opinion, you should respond in kind rather than trying to fit a part.
I honestly think his refusal to mix the two worlds is what turned people off. You can't be dedicated the way he was to his academics only to ignore it all of a sudden.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:07 pm to barry
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If you are a star, sure. If you are an average player though, they will have no problems cutting you because of philosophical differences if you will.
You think Goodell was excited about having a future neurosurgeon playing football? The fix was in.
I assume this is a troll attempt, but I'll bite for arguments sake. NFL teams have been more than willing to bring in guys who are convicted felons, wife-beaters, repeated drug users, hell, even a guy who pleaded guilty to manslaughter (or maybe negligent homicide) all because they thought those guys could help them win games on Sunday. If you can help an NFL team win on Sunday, there will be a spot for you. This guy didn't make it simply because he wasn't good enough
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:09 pm to Geauxgurt
Sam is a much better player than Rolle, imo.
As for Rolle retiring after 2 years in the NFL, I'd do the same too, if I had those kinds of fallback options. I am sure most players hate NFL locker rooms and the overall climate, but they have literally nothing else in terms of valuable skills, so they grin and bare it. Rolle clearly does, and that's why he left instead of working his way through other practice squads, the CFL, etc.
As for Rolle retiring after 2 years in the NFL, I'd do the same too, if I had those kinds of fallback options. I am sure most players hate NFL locker rooms and the overall climate, but they have literally nothing else in terms of valuable skills, so they grin and bare it. Rolle clearly does, and that's why he left instead of working his way through other practice squads, the CFL, etc.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:12 pm to Geauxgurt
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Fact is that the kid is a good athlete that was also very intelligent. In the end though, it was the opposite of what they try to claim here. His perception as an athlete was actually overblown based on his intelligence rather than vice versa.
The kid was a good not great player. Tons of players get all-american in college and amount to diddly in the NFL. This goes back to similar reactions to the Michael Sam issue. The guy was rated no higher than late third round at best and all the way to the 7th round. He comes out that he's gay and all of a sudden will his stock be hurt by it is the narrative.
Rolle was overrated in college and much like some others couldn't handle things in the NFL. The thing he did was refuse to be who he was, so I don't blame coaches for not buying it. You're a smart kid that clearly has done some great things. If people ask you about your opinion, you should respond in kind rather than trying to fit a part.
I honestly think his refusal to mix the two worlds is what turned people off. You can't be dedicated the way he was to his academics only to ignore it all of a sudden.
Exactly. Plus he took off a year of football to pursue academic interests and didn't seem to make it a secret that he wanted to attend medical school in the future. Furthermore in the combine he seemed to have lost a step/never really had the raw talent in the first place. Why waste millions of dollars and a valuable draft pick on a guy who clearly doesn't have football as his top career priority.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:16 pm to Keys Open Doors
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In that article, Perriloux made it clear what he thought. The author agreed with him, but he didn't to stretch his conclusions because Perriloux said everything for him. Rolle is too smart to do that, but he still gives the writer enough to run his pre-fabricated article without making it a straight, unsourced opinion piece.
That's a pretty big variation though. I don't care what a sportswriter thinks of an NFL locker room or Les Miles. The problem with the Perrilloux piece was not the part the author wrote, any time a big prospect misses out on NFL riches is fairly sad, but Perrilloux's quotes. There are no such quotes here.
It seems like a huge stretch to call him whiny. It's also clear he's not delusional. He'll make a better doctor than football player, and he made the decisions to put academics first. That seems like a self-aware choice.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:16 pm to OFWHAP
I think football was his top priority from a career standpoint. ALso, he was probably way more focused on football in terms of life priorities than many players.
I imagine football is well down the priority for many guys, after partying, women, and maybe other ventures. For Rolle, it was football and medicine, along with social programs for kids. That's a lot better than going to strip clubs, getting high, etc.
The reality is Rolle just wasn't all that good at football.
I imagine football is well down the priority for many guys, after partying, women, and maybe other ventures. For Rolle, it was football and medicine, along with social programs for kids. That's a lot better than going to strip clubs, getting high, etc.
The reality is Rolle just wasn't all that good at football.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:17 pm to JBeam
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This is the biggest myth that is played up by certain talking heads.
You're either delusional or naive if you don't think there will be substantially increased media attention on the team Michael Sam ends up on. There are many that are looking at his coming out as a landmark moment in professional sports, especially in the NFL, the nation's most popular sport. Likewise, I suspect there will be many teams who see his ability as a player not being worth the added media attention it will bring to thier team.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:19 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Sam is a much better player than Rolle, imo.
Understood. Sam is a very good player, but like many college studs, he's a tweener when it comes to the pros and that is what has dictated his stock being around 4th-6th round with maybe a chance for the late 3rd.
What I am saying, however, is that his pro potential will be embellished to fit the narrative, as you see with this article on Rolle. The author is trying to force the narrative.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:20 pm to Baloo
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It's also clear he's not delusional
Just about why he failed in the NFL and possibly his stock hit (don't think Rolle says much on the latter). Not on anything else. And I imagine a lot of it was brought out by the author. He has more going on his life than 99 percent of NFL players, and I am sure most people love getting to know the guy. His only mistake was sitting down for the interviews with the writer, unless the writer completely sandbagged on his intent for the article.
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He'll make a better doctor than football player, and he made the decisions to put academics first. That seems like a self-aware choice.
Agree 100%.
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