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The long term impact of NIL and transfer portal on high school recruiting?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:02 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:02 am
Is it good or bad? It will always be good for the elite high school players…they will have their pick of offers. But what about the rest?
With NIL dollars and/or potential for more playing time luring more and more players into the transfer portal (essentially free agency). Why would a coach pick a high school recruit when they can get someone with more experience through the portal. Think about it…every offer made to someone in the transfer portal is an offer that previously would have gone to a high school recruit. Wondering what the long term implications of this is going to be.
With NIL dollars and/or potential for more playing time luring more and more players into the transfer portal (essentially free agency). Why would a coach pick a high school recruit when they can get someone with more experience through the portal. Think about it…every offer made to someone in the transfer portal is an offer that previously would have gone to a high school recruit. Wondering what the long term implications of this is going to be.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 6:07 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:06 am to TigerFan244
Every time a kid transfer there’s avoid left at the school he departed from. That’s good for HS kids. The number of scholarships available across all of college football is not changing, so transfer portal or not, high school kids will have a place. If NIL keeps kits in school longer, that could impact high school recruiting. Not sure we’ve seen that yet.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 6:07 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:06 am to TigerFan244
Nil wasn’t suppose to turn into highest bidder to go or stay at a school… it was suppose to give the athletes who are bringing in money to schools and being able to market themselves.
School sells a jersey or two players can’t make money selling their autographs to card companies… tshirts things like that.
School sells a jersey or two players can’t make money selling their autographs to card companies… tshirts things like that.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:07 am to TigerFan244
I mean the math didn’t change. It still takes the same number of kids to populate all the teams. There’s still the same number of offers out there for hs kids. It my be harder to be d1 power 5 but there no fewer spots overall.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:13 am to NorthEnd
I read an article about ex Tiger Manny Netherly, who bounced between WR/CB before hitting the portal. No one offered him and last I heard he was a truck driver. I'm not saying the same could have happened if he had been "processed" here but the grass isn't always greener.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:40 am to logansrun
some really good players will slip through the cracks and sign d2 and naia
then theyll ball out at that level, have college film, and transfer up
or theyll spend their college years at a smaller school, such is life
then theyll ball out at that level, have college film, and transfer up
or theyll spend their college years at a smaller school, such is life
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:52 am to TigerFan244
Eh, hard to say. It is going to split college football into 2 tiers. There will be a few HS standouts that get plucked by top tier, and the rest will go to feeder schools for a year or two, with hopes of transferring to the top tier school at some point.
Its going to mean that top tier coaches are going to have to develop relationships with lower tier coaches and schools. They will need them to teach players their system, to eliminate that initial learning curve for a transfer.
Its going to mean that top tier coaches are going to have to develop relationships with lower tier coaches and schools. They will need them to teach players their system, to eliminate that initial learning curve for a transfer.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:30 am to RickQuick
The extra Covid year has been worse on high school recruits than the portal. Although I believe the portal hurts certain positions more than others, especially the QB position. I had a coach tell me why take a chance on a project when I can go get a college player with film.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:50 am to TigerFan244
This is a rich get richer system. A couple of observations:
Programs that don't have the money to pay out the NIL deals are going to lose players to schools who offer more. Especially when they don't have to sit out a year.
Schools that traditionally compete by getting 2 and 3 star athletes and develop them are going to see these players walk right after they blossom. These schools will become the "minor leagues" for big time SEC and Big 10 programs.
Money is going to be a problem. Players will be jealous. If you are a recruit and you are making $5k/month and another recruit is making 5 times that, even though you are starting ahead of the guy making more, then that will cause a problem.
On the positive side, day 2 and day 3 draftees may stay 4 years because the NFL won't be much of a pay cut for some of these guys.
Programs that don't have the money to pay out the NIL deals are going to lose players to schools who offer more. Especially when they don't have to sit out a year.
Schools that traditionally compete by getting 2 and 3 star athletes and develop them are going to see these players walk right after they blossom. These schools will become the "minor leagues" for big time SEC and Big 10 programs.
Money is going to be a problem. Players will be jealous. If you are a recruit and you are making $5k/month and another recruit is making 5 times that, even though you are starting ahead of the guy making more, then that will cause a problem.
On the positive side, day 2 and day 3 draftees may stay 4 years because the NFL won't be much of a pay cut for some of these guys.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:54 am to GeauxtigersMs36
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Nil wasn’t suppose to turn into highest bidder to go or stay at a school… it was suppose to give the athletes who are bringing in money to schools and being able to market themselves. School sells a jersey or two players can’t make money selling their autographs to card companies… tshirts things like that
We all know what NIL was “intended” to be.
It was 100% predictable what it has become.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:09 am to TigerFan244
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Think about it…every offer made to someone in the transfer portal is an offer that previously would have gone to a high school recruit.
This is not entirely true, since the initial counter limit (25/year) went away. In fact you could make the argument that the transfer portal era actually opens up more spots for HS recruits.
Here’s how that works:
1. Teams no longer have the 25/year initial counter limit. They can give out as many new scholarships as they want, as long as they stay under the total cap of 85 scholarships.
2. Every transfer fills a scholarship spot at one school, but also opens a scholarship spot at another school.
3. That means that if every player who enters the portal finds a home at the D1 level, it’s a wash. Total scholarships taken up by existing D1 players would remain unchanged.
4. However, the reality is that not every player in the portal finds a home. Some players will end up quitting football. Others will wind up playing at a lower level.
5. The net result is that total scholarships actually decrease, which means there are more openings for HS players.
The other factor is that the old 25/year initial counter limit meant that not every school would maintain 85 scholarships. If you had more than 25 players leaving (due to graduation, early entrants to the draft, dismissals, transfers, etc.) you previously could not fill that entire void with HS players or incoming transfers. A lot of schools would award those remaining scholarships to walk ons just to avoid wasting them. Now you can give those remaining scholarships to HS players or transfers, which again means more spots for incoming players.
Numbers are still a little wonky because of the free COVID year. It will be 2025-2026 before we see things finally stabilize on that front, as that’s when there will no longer be 5th year starters or 6th year players on rosters.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:27 am to Jax-Tiger
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Programs that don't have the money to pay out the NIL deals are going to lose players to schools who offer more. Especially when they don't have to sit out a year.
That has not necessarily translated to results on the field. A&M has been bad even though they win the recruiting national championships. Ole Miss has very little money relative to them, and some other, but they have done well with transfers even though other schools could pay more with NIL.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:42 am to GeauxtigersMs36
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Nil wasn’t suppose to turn into highest bidder to go or stay at a school
Stevie Wonder could see what this was going to become.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:13 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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Nil wasn’t suppose to turn into highest bidder to go or stay at a school
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it was suppose to give the athletes who are bringing in money to schools and being able to market themselves. School sells a jersey or two players can’t make money selling their autographs to card companies… tshirts things like that.
It’s cute that you’re so naive
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