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The eventual Big 12-SEC, B1G-ACC merger...
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:42 am
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:42 am
I feel like we are on an inevitable path to having two super conferences much like the NFC and AFC of the NFL. The way this makes sense is for the four major remaining conferences to eventually merge together to form a Southern Conference and a Northern Conference or whatever the hell they want to call the split. They will then model the playoff format after the NFL, thus ruining the uniqueness of the sport of college football.
Money and greed eventually ruins everything.
Money and greed eventually ruins everything.
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:46 am to RollTide1987
Good. Then the mini divisions will restore us back to the regional match up’s we all desire. Its coming full circle back to where we started
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:46 am to RollTide1987
I don't think it'll be that clean. Would SEC want UTAH and Arizona schools? Would the Big Ten want 4 schools in North Carolina?
SEC and Big 10 will pick what they want if it comes to that.
SEC and Big 10 will pick what they want if it comes to that.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:16 am to RollTide1987
If the SEC wanted anything else from the Big 12, it would’ve taken it. If the SEC expands further, it will be the top ACC schools.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:18 am to LB84
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. Would SEC want UTAH and Arizona schools? Would the Big Ten want 4 schools in North Carolina?
Would the SEC want Miss St if they already had Ole Miss?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:20 am to BreakawayZou83
It won't be an expansion, it will be a merger. Eventually the Power Four will realize they can make more money outside of the NCAA than within it, will secede to form their own division of football, and will set it up similarly to how the NFL is set up today. There will be a merger of the the four conferences, divisions will be formed, and a 12-team playoff will emerge as the top six teams from each conference will compete for a national championship.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 10:15 am to RollTide1987
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There will be a merger of the the four conferences, divisions will be formed, and a 12-team playoff will emerge as the top six teams from each conference will compete for a national championship.
That's too logical and college football is anything but logical.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 10:19 am to LB84
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That's too logical and college football is anything but logical.
I don't think it's logical at all. At least not compared to the 150+ years of pageantry and tradition in the sport. College football prided itself on being decentralized and regionalized. No longer. Money is now in the game and as more money gets injected into the sport, the more it will become "logical" as you put it.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 10:50 am to RollTide1987
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I don't think it's logical at all. At least not compared to the 150+ years of pageantry and tradition in the sport. College football prided itself on being decentralized and regionalized. No longer. Money is now in the game and as more money gets injected into the sport, the more it will become "logical" as you put it.
When you said the 4 conferences merge and then they split themselves into divisions I was assuming the divisions would be based on regionality.
Take for example the mid-atlantic area.
Pitt, Penn State, WVU, VT, Virginia, Maryland, Syracuse, and Rutgers should be playing a round robin but because of conferences and money these teams have rarely played each other anymore outside of a few exceptions. A merger of all 4 conferences I would think a division would consist of these 8.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:39 am to LB84
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Take for example the mid-atlantic area.
Pitt, Penn State, WVU, VT, Virginia, Maryland, Syracuse, and Rutgers should be playing a round robin but because of conferences and money these teams have rarely played each other anymore outside of a few exceptions. A merger of all 4 conferences I would think a division would consist of these 8.
Us old school Syracuse fans have wanted this for years. A regional conference (division, in this case) where we play all of our natural rivals? Holy shite, that makes too much sense. If a couple of super conferences are formed where teams go back to where rivalries and localities means something, sign me up. I know it wouldn't be perfect, but it could be very good for everyone, schools, fans, players, tv, bowls, etc.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:41 am to LB84
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Take for example the mid-atlantic area.
Pitt, Penn State, WVU, VT, Virginia, Maryland, Syracuse, and Rutgers should be playing a round robin
I agree with this. The problem is, when the smoke clears and all of the realignment is done, Penn State will be the only one of these teams playing in the highest division of the sport.
IMO, that's where this is all going. There will be 24-32 of the biggest brand names in the sport split in two divisions like the OP is saying. Everyone else will be several tiers below. It will be NFL lite and feel very corporate and sterilized. Will be joyless to watch.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 11:45 am
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:42 am to RollTide1987
Why 2???
The SEC needs to be their own everything.
Add Clemson, FSU, UNC, Michigan, and Ohio State and break away from the NCAA.
They’d be enough schools for all the sports’ schedules and national championships.
The SEC needs to be their own everything.
Add Clemson, FSU, UNC, Michigan, and Ohio State and break away from the NCAA.
They’d be enough schools for all the sports’ schedules and national championships.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:20 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
Why is UNC so highly valued? I feel like they have and average to mediocre football every year.
Miami seems way more valuable as a brand.
Miami seems way more valuable as a brand.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 1:25 pm to VADawg
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There will be 24-32 of the biggest brand names in the sport split in two divisions like the OP is saying. Everyone else will be several tiers below. It will be NFL lite and feel very corporate and sterilized. Will be joyless to watch.
If this is true, then the money will dry up because fans will lose interest. The powers that be in college football need to be very careful that they don't, out of short-sighted greed, kill the goose that laid the golden egg by destroying the unique appeal of the sport.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 1:30 pm to marchballer
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Why is UNC so highly valued?
Because they have an amazing basketball tradition, are generally decent-to-good in football, are strong in a lot of the minor sports, have by far the largest fan base in a large and growing state, and have a good academic reputation.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 1:35 pm to profwilson
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If this is true, then the money will dry up because fans will lose interest
TV people think the diehards are hooked and will never go away. Kinda like the NASCAR decision makers did.
Abandoning your core fanbase to chase an audience who isn't going to watch anyways (the NYC/Boston crowd) is a terrible business strategy. They refuse to embrace their core audience and cater to them, IMO, because their core audience is largely made up of white men from the South and the Midwest.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 1:39 pm to marchballer
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Why is UNC so highly valued?
UNC is a stronger brand than you give it credit for.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 1:47 pm to RollTide1987
In 10 years I think we’ll have football super conferences with regional divisions. That will be the top tier of programs and they can schedule marquee games as they please.
The rest of college football and other sports will go back to more logical conferences.
The rest of college football and other sports will go back to more logical conferences.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:30 pm to VADawg
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Abandoning your core fanbase to chase an audience who isn't going to watch anyways (the NYC/Boston crowd) is a terrible business strategy. They refuse to embrace their core audience and cater to them, IMO, because their core audience is largely made up of white men from the South and the Midwest.
I've lived here in New Jersey for a few years now. The stretch from Baltimore through Philly, Jersey, NYC, and up to Boston doesn't care about college sports at all. The NFL and NBA pretty much rule up here.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:31 pm to RollTide1987
The SEC isn’t merging with whatever crap is left in the Big 12
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