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The BCS, computers, and math

Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Myshkin
Wanderlust
Member since Jul 2011
2868 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:41 pm
Here is the final wolfe poll:

1 LSU 10.519
2 Alabama 8.969
3 Oklahoma St 8.700

Here is last week's Wolfe Poll:
1 LSU 10.207
2 Alabama 8.877
3 Oklahoma State 8.582

I find it interesting that LSU beats Wolfe's #15 team and gains 0.312

Meanwhile, Idle Bama gains 0.092

And finally, OSU beats Wolfe's #10 team and gains 0.118



wat.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 9:42 pm
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25881 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:42 pm to
Why is the formulae so opaque?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:43 pm to
Probably a lot to do with what all the opponents did.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83345 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:44 pm to
If I'm not mistaken, Okie State could have finished 2nd in all the computer polls and they still would have finished 3rd in the BCS. So it didn't really matter in the end
Posted by Myshkin
Wanderlust
Member since Jul 2011
2868 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:44 pm to
Not a lot of teams playing this past week though.

I think OSU's opponents went like 2-2 because big 12 was one of the few conferences that had games.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:45 pm to
They need to release the formulas to the public. This is ridiculous that they can just put out numbers without anyone being able to check and make sure they're correct.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

If I'm not mistaken, Okie State could have finished 2nd in all the computer polls and they still would have finished 3rd in the BCS. So it didn't really matter in the end

Yeah this is true.
Posted by Myshkin
Wanderlust
Member since Jul 2011
2868 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

If I'm not mistaken, Okie State could have finished 2nd in all the computer polls and they still would have finished 3rd in the BCS. So it didn't really matter in the end


You're not mistaken. That isn't really the point of this thread.

The point is these computer polls are insane. Whether they are insanely complex and efficient or insanely stupid is for you to decide.
Posted by Myshkin
Wanderlust
Member since Jul 2011
2868 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

They need to release the formulas to the public.


Yea. I know Wolfe is one of the more secretive. I tried to do some research on how he computes it, but he just list a huge bibliography of complex math ideas that I could never understand.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83345 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

That isn't really the point of this thread.

The point is these computer polls are insane. Whether they are insanely complex and efficient or insanely stupid is for you to decide.



They are insanely stupid no doubt.

Look no further than Wolfe ranking Oklahoma 10th and Auburn at 22nd in his poll this week
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