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lsusa
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
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I am not really in favor of trying to add to this team. I think you are looking at a 75-77 win team. I would not trade Albies, Swanson, Acuna or Maitan for Sale or Archer. If we do make a big trade it should be trading from the glut of arms for an Arenado type.



I wouldn't mind a few additions as long as they weren't mortgaging the future.

If Wieters price comes down enough, I don't think he'd be a bad addition and should finally be recovered from surgery

On the other hand, wouldn't mind trading a similar prospect or maybe bullpen arm to get a young catcher (Barnes w the Dodgers comes to mind).

I think there are some minor moves that could make the team better in the short term that would make the foundation stronger long term.


Caplewood
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
We resigned EOF



lsu31always
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Braves cave says it's just a minor league deal.


RollDatRoll
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Rule 5 action today:

IN: Rivero, Pimentel
OUT: Moran, Bird, Miranda

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Drew Silva
Armando Rivero, the Braves' Rule 5 Draft selection from the Cubs, is sorta intriguing. 2.13 ERA, 105 K in 67 2/3 IP this year at AAA Iowa.


Allthatfades
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Williams Perez released. I know he wasn't very good, but he seems young to just totally give up on.


devils1854
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
A guy I talk to , who is a big and informative Cubs fan, hates that we picked up Rivero. Can be an impact pen piece.

Honestly, he reminds me a lot of Juan Jaime. Older pitcher dominating in the minors, with a huge K rating, but no control. Tons of walks.


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devils1854
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
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Williams Perez released. I know he wasn't very good, but he seems young to just totally give up on.


25 years old. Never that good in 200 total innings for the Braves. Probably wasnt getting better. We have better options at starter, and younger, higher ceiling guys in the minors, and we have tons of pen guys.

Pretty much a no brainer since it opened up a spot for Rivero on the 40.


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Mac5500
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
So does this mean we have 2 Rule 5 picks on the roster in Winkler and Rivero?


lsusa
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Braves just made trade with rangers for Luke Jackson. Gave up Jenkins and Brady Fiegl


RunLindsayRun
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Luke Jackson. 25 that's been sub-par since he was drafted but does have filthy stuff. 97-100 mph fastball. Hope he gains control cause I liked Jenkins.
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devils1854
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Braves just made trade with rangers for Luke Jackson. Gave up Jenkins and Brady Fiegl


Dont mind it. At least Jackson has an ounce of potential, even though he cannot throw a strike to save his life. Thats not really something that can be said about Jenkins. What we saw was pretty much what we were going to get with him. Someone that cant miss bats, and doesnt have the command to get around that.

Doubful Jackson ever does something, but he can throw hard as hell.


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TheRig
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Wieters adds no value to us I the short term because we're not there yet as a team and by the time we get there he will be old and pretty far down the slippery slope we already see him on.

That would be a waste of money no matter the price. Keep that Georgia boy out of Georgia


volfan30
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Jenkins was a 0. Feigl injured. Fine with it.


rebel of fortune
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Yeah I love Jenkins but he is not a MLB pitcher. He had more walks than strikeouts last year. Jackson has a better chance to have a MLB career than Jenkins.


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lsusa
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
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Wieters adds no value to us I the short term because we're not there yet as a team and by the time we get there he will be old and pretty far down the slippery slope we already see him on. That would be a waste of money no matter the price. Keep that Georgia boy out of Georgia



I think Wieters has a little more tread left on the tires than folks think, and he will be fully healthy two years removed.

But I stand by the caveat it has to be the right cost....maybe a 1 year "prove it" deal or something short with and option/buyout.

I'm not crazy enough to believe the Braves will compete for the division this year....but I think they're at the point where developing a winning culture is important.

Just my .02. You make some valid points too.


devils1854
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Wieters will be 31 next May. He just did a one year prove it deal with Baltimore. He is looking for his last big payday since he is a catcher.

he already has 7000 innings on his body as a catcher. Its likely that he will never be fully healthy again, and give you 140 games behind the plate like he did up until 2014.

He's nothing special at the plate, wont be worth his contract, and is right handed, and we already have Flowers signed through this year, who can give the same production at a fraction of the cost.


volfan30
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
BA Top 10
Swanson
Albies
Allard
Soroka
Anderson
Acuna
Maitan
Newcomb
Weigel
Fried
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Caplewood
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
Really hope Newcombe gets his shite together this year. And I'm super pumped to go and see Anderson, muller, and wentz throw a couple times in Rome
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devils1854
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
My top 50 in the system and where I expect them to be this year.

1.Dansby Swanson||SS||Atlanta
2.Ozzie Albies||SS/2B||Gwinnett
3.Ronald Acuna||CF||Rome
4.Max Fried||LHP||Mississippi
5.Kolby Allard||LHP||Florida
6.Sean Newcomb||LHP||Gwinnett
7.Mike Soroka||RHP||Florida
8.Ian Anderson||RHP||Rome
9.Touki Toussaint||RHP||Florida
10.Joey Wentz||LHP||Danville
11.AJ Minter||LHP||Gwinnett
12.Derian Cruz||SS||Danville
13.Dustin Peterson||LF||Gwinnett
14.Austin Riley||3B||Florida
15.Rio Ruiz||3B||Gwinnett/Atlanta
16.Patrick Weigel||RHP||Mississippi
17.Cristian Pache||CF||Rome
18.Kyle Muller||LHP||Danville
19.Lucas Sims||RHP||Gwinnett
20.Travis Demeritte||2B||Mississippi
21.Randy Ventura||RF||Danville
22.Alex Jackson||C/OF||Florida
23.Jed Bradley||LHP||Gwinnett
24.Juan Yepez||1B||Rome
25.Braxton Davidson||LF||Florida
26.Akeel Morris||RHP||Gwinnett
27.Connor Lien||CF||Mississippi
28.Leudys Baez||LF||Rome
29.Ricardo Sanchez||LHP||Rome
30.Josh Graham||RHP||Florida
31.Brett Cumberland||C||Rome
32.Anfernee Seymour||SS||Rome
33.Stephen Janas||RHP||Gwinnett
34.Ray-Patrick Didder||CF||Florida
35.Jonathan Morales||C||Florida
36.Isranel Wilson||RF||Danville
37.Sean Godfrey||LF||Mississippi
38.William Contreras||C||Danville
39.Bryse Wilson||RHP||Danville
40.Kade Scivicque||C||Mississippi
41.Lucas Herbert||C||Rome
42.Luis Valenzuela||2B||Florida
43.Corbin Clouse||LHP||Florida
44.Wes Parsons||RHP||Mississippi
45.Jared James||LF||Rome
46.Carlos Castro||1B||Florida
47.Jason Hursh||RHP||Gwinnett
48.JB Moss||LF||Florida
49.Jeremy Walker||RHP||Rome
50.Caleb Dirks||RHP||Mississippi

I dont add players that havent played yet, so no Maitan, but if I did place him, I would have to put him #1 because of his supposed potential.


volfan30
Tennessee Fan
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re: The ATL Thread Offseason Edition: Braves acquire Brandon Phillips
The top 9 (10 of you include Maitan) seem to be pretty consensus, with the order varying depending on who is ranking them. 11-20 is another tier and then you have about 20 guys pretty close imo. Last 10 guys on your list are org types at best imo, although Herbert, Parsons and Hursh are interesting.
This post was edited on 12/9 at 9:07 pm


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