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re: The 5 Most Clutch Playoff Quarterbacks of All Time According to FiveThirtyEight
Posted on 8/28/16 at 11:48 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 8/28/16 at 11:48 pm to TigerintheNO
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I think Elway holds the records for the most interceptions in the Super Bowl.
Hasn't he also played in more Super Bowls than any other QB?
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Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:22 am to LL012697
Read the title. Most Clutch Playoff QB. Not regular season
Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:47 am to Bench McElroy
Where is Touchdown Tom?
Posted on 8/29/16 at 1:15 am to Bench McElroy
In his four Super Bowls, Montana completed 83 of 122 passes for 1,142 yards and 11 touchdowns with no interceptions, earning him a passer rating of 127.8.
Montana led his team to victory in each game, and was the first player ever to win three Super Bowl MVP awards.
Montana led his team to victory in each game, and was the first player ever to win three Super Bowl MVP awards.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 1:33 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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In his four Super Bowls, Montana completed 83 of 122 passes for 1,142 yards and 11 touchdowns with no interceptions, earning him a passer rating of 127.8.
just a few plays before Montana threw the game winner to John Taylor vs. the Bengals in SB XXIII, a Bengals player dropped an interception.
crazy how things work out sometimes. I saw that game on a replay on NFLN a few months back. Wasn't aware of that until I saw it. The 49ers offense basically dinked and dunked back in the day with occasional long shots down the field.
nothing that really had you on the edge of your seat I guess but methodical as frick to say the least.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 2:24 am to LooseCannon22282
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The 49ers offense basically dinked and dunked back in the day with occasional long shots down the field
Well it was the West Coast offense...that Walsh simplfied from the Bengals and built on to have ball control.
And apart from that one year with Moss, nobody has dinked and dunked with smurfs more than Brady. He perfected the art of the 5 yard completion...especially under these pass-happy, can't touch the QB rules.
I guess it's called winning, can't hold that against Montana especially when Giants and 46 Bears were once allowed to tear his head off.
This post was edited on 8/29/16 at 2:25 am
Posted on 8/29/16 at 2:36 am to olemiss5931
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Read the title. Most Clutch Playoff QB. Not regular season
I mean in the non super bowl years in the playoffs he's 0-3 with 2 tds and 6 picks and a QB rating of 53.5. But I'll take your word for it Ole Miss fan
Posted on 8/29/16 at 3:33 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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I guess it's called winning, can't hold that against Montana especially when Giants and 46 Bears were once allowed to tear his head off.
yeah.. Jim Burt nailed him one time they use to show that clip a lot when they ran those highlight reels back along time ago on ESPN. Wasn't it those NFL Films shows that only lasted 30 minutes each??
oh well.. I know .. I know.. long gone are the glory days of the NFL. Its all about your fantasy teams now and watching the redzone channel instead.
I keep staying interested enough.. what can I say. Still a fan of the game.. such tragedy of perfection
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:23 am to Bench McElroy
That list is laughable and has no credibility - Kurt Warner, Joe Flacco and Eli Manning?
Terry Bradshaw has to be on that list as does Tom Brady.
The reality is QB's in this candy arse age of flag football have it easy.
Terry Bradshaw has to be on that list as does Tom Brady.
The reality is QB's in this candy arse age of flag football have it easy.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:31 am to Bench McElroy
quote:Seems like the obvious choice based on their criteria.
1. Eli Manning
Someone can correct if I'm slightly off but I believe both SB runs came from the wildcard spot, 1 of them being a 9-7 team. And otherwise, his teams aren't in the playoffs for the most part on an annual basis.
So, few playoff appearances with 2 unlikely runs and 2 titles.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:13 am to Bench McElroy
Wouldn't it make more sense to measure the QB's playoff performance against his regular season performance? Isn't that what we think of when he think "clutch" - an athlete's ability to raise his game when most necessary?
Was Joe Montana clutch or just really really good? (He was both.)
I haven't found the 538 article, so maybe that is actually what they did - and I'd expect Manning and Flacco to make that list, anyway.
Was Joe Montana clutch or just really really good? (He was both.)
I haven't found the 538 article, so maybe that is actually what they did - and I'd expect Manning and Flacco to make that list, anyway.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 11:59 am to Speedy G
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Wouldn't it make more sense to measure the QB's playoff performance against his regular season performance? Isn't that what we think of when he think "clutch" - an athlete's ability to raise his game when most necessary?
Pro Football Focus did it or somebody.
They measured QB rating and TD/INT ratio from regular season vs. post-season.
Joe Montana was #1 by a large margin. His post-season stats dwarfed his regular season stats. In the analysis, he raised his game more than anyone.
Staubach was high, Big Ben was high.
Peyton Manning was the lowest. His regular season dwarfed his embarrasing playoff numbers.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:10 pm to LL012697
quote:This is all irrelevant for this thread, don't be stupid. They clearly stated the set of data being analyzed.
I mean in the non super bowl years in the playoffs he's 0-3 with 2 tds and 6 picks and a QB rating of 53.5. But I'll take your word for it Ole Miss fan
Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:45 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:A quick look(sorry, not posting the numbers) at just 3 guys: Montaha, Flacco, Eli.
They measured QB rating and TD/INT ratio from regular season vs. post-season. Joe Montana was #1 by a large margin. His post-season stats dwarfed his regular season stats. In the analysis, he raised his game more than anyone.
Both Eli and Flacco raise their QB Rating and TD:INT ratio at a higher rate than Montana. Granted, Montana in the playoffs is still better, but he didn't raise his level of play compared to regular season as much as those 2 have.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:52 pm to shel311
Well the article was 5 years old.
Don't disagree about Flacco, he was money in their SB run.
Bart Starr doesn't get enough love either, he was almost perfect for the Packers. Granted they ran a lot, but he made zero mistakes.
But Montana did it 4 times...
Don't disagree about Flacco, he was money in their SB run.
Bart Starr doesn't get enough love either, he was almost perfect for the Packers. Granted they ran a lot, but he made zero mistakes.
But Montana did it 4 times...
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There's no way around it.
Joe Montana is the greatest postseason quarterback in the history of the National Football League.
Montana holds a 4-0 record in the Super Bowl. All four times he posted a triple-digit passer rating. His 11 touchdowns are a Super Bowl record and his zero interceptions in 122 pass attempts are a testament to his greatness.
Montana has thrown one or fewer interceptions in 18 of his 23 postseason games. He posted a passer rating above 100 in 12 of his 23 playoff games, including eight in a row. He averages 250 yards and two touchdown passes per game.
He threw three interceptions against the Giants in the 1984 divisional round, yet still threw for 309 yards and three touchdowns, while rushing for 63 yards, including a 53-yard scamper, in a 21-10 victory.
"Joe Cool" could win games any way. He won close games: 28-27, 20-16, 27-24. He won blowouts: 55-10. 41-13. 38-16. Simply put, Montana was legendary in the regular season.
In the postseason? He was simply magical.
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