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re: Texas Ranger Trade Deadline Thread _ Rangers get Dempster and Soto
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:40 am to BigBoyTiger
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:40 am to BigBoyTiger
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Too much of a head case. Not a big game pitcher.
Which is why I want him. Drive the price down on those grounds, keep Olt in the system, and you still get a great pitcher.
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:43 am to Baloo
So Z. Grienke for L Martin & M Perez...I'm all for it. Would the Brewers? Is it too much or not enough?
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:44 am to PetreauxCat
I would like to see them hold on to Profar and Olt. Profar could move into second in the future and Kins to the OF. Olt could move into the hole at FB. I just don't think Moreland is the permanent answer.
I think they will have to give up Olt to get a deal done. They have repeatedly said Profar is off the table, and I believe them.
They have to make a move for a starting pitcher if they want to have any chance in the playoffs.
I think they will have to give up Olt to get a deal done. They have repeatedly said Profar is off the table, and I believe them.
They have to make a move for a starting pitcher if they want to have any chance in the playoffs.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:46 am to 12
The only certainty is you know they will do something. Daniels always does.
I really, really want Willingham. He is a really good player. He walks quite a bit too.
I really, really want Willingham. He is a really good player. He walks quite a bit too.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:48 am to 12
I'd throw in Borbon on almost any deal I'm trying to make. He's a serviceable Major League ready centerfielder. He's certainly not a key piece, but he's the kind of player who can tip the scales on a trade.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:50 am to Baloo
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I'd throw in Borbon on almost any deal I'm trying to make.
No doubt. I agree with this x 100.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:53 am to PetreauxCat
Olt--Not touchable. 1B is a BIG hole. Mitch had a good start but he's become mediocre. Young could fill in but after next year he's out. Napoli is gone after this season. Snyder probably isn't the solution either.
Perez--Not going anywhere. He's going to have to fill in for Lewis the rest of this season. If the Rangers do get a rental arm, we still have the totally ineffective Feliz to replace. (And if he's everything the rest of this board claims he is, why trade him for a rental arm who leaves after this season?)
Martin--Only if the Rangers feel Gentry is Josh's replacement after this season.
Scheppers--Good luck finding a partner to take him. He has NOT impressed me at all.
Starters to pick up:
Lee--Are we talking Cliff Lee again? Wasn't impressed the first time and his wife dissed the ballclub after he left. (CJ admitted he learned a lot from Lee--must have been about how to be an annoying prick.)
Which of the others (I know it isn't either Hamels or Greinke) has more than this season left on their contract? If M Garza that might work IF we can dump Scheppers.
Perez--Not going anywhere. He's going to have to fill in for Lewis the rest of this season. If the Rangers do get a rental arm, we still have the totally ineffective Feliz to replace. (And if he's everything the rest of this board claims he is, why trade him for a rental arm who leaves after this season?)
Martin--Only if the Rangers feel Gentry is Josh's replacement after this season.
Scheppers--Good luck finding a partner to take him. He has NOT impressed me at all.
Starters to pick up:
Lee--Are we talking Cliff Lee again? Wasn't impressed the first time and his wife dissed the ballclub after he left. (CJ admitted he learned a lot from Lee--must have been about how to be an annoying prick.)
Which of the others (I know it isn't either Hamels or Greinke) has more than this season left on their contract? If M Garza that might work IF we can dump Scheppers.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:55 am to TK421
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For Josh Johnson? Nothing. Have you looked at his stats this year in the National League?
Yeah a 2.98 FIP and 3.1 fWAR sucks arse.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:55 am to PetreauxCat
Though not ideal, I could see them standing pat.
Yu, Harrison, Holland, Oswalt, Feliz/Ogando not a bad rotation when the back end pitches up to par with their talent. Not as sexy name wise when compared to the Angels on paper, but it's better than the Yankees.
Acquiring Johnson or Lee would definitely put it over the top... but it's still formidable as is. Johnson is on a buy low this season so Perez and some lower level prospects should do the trick. Package for Lee would have to start with Olt.
Yu, Harrison, Holland, Oswalt, Feliz/Ogando not a bad rotation when the back end pitches up to par with their talent. Not as sexy name wise when compared to the Angels on paper, but it's better than the Yankees.
Acquiring Johnson or Lee would definitely put it over the top... but it's still formidable as is. Johnson is on a buy low this season so Perez and some lower level prospects should do the trick. Package for Lee would have to start with Olt.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:57 am to Quidam65
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Mitch had a good start but he's become mediocre.
This is false. He started terribly, but then got hot and was playing decent before he got hurt. The numbers bear out that the Rangers offense hasn't been the same without him (though that may be a coincidence).
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Lee--Are we talking Cliff Lee again? Wasn't impressed the first time
Game 7. 2010. Tampa Bay. This is why I know you're full of shite.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:58 am to DEANintheYAY
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Who is this Profar guy? Is he the same guy as Probar that Quidam always raves about?
ha ha very funny. Don't you need to find someone stupid enough to take Wells off your hands?
And remember, your best pitcher in the regular season is your worst postseason pitcher. And an annoying prick.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:00 am to BigBoyTiger
Lee wasn't that impressive in the regular season in his last stint. But you aren't hiring him for September. But that would have no bearing on whether to trade for him now -- the fact he's 33 with declining numbers and is signed longterm is a much bigger deal.
I thought the Rangers could've stood pat until Colby got hurt. He is the true ace of the staff, come postseason. Now, they really only have three man staff -- Yu, Holland, and Harrison. You need a fourth, and preferably a #1 guy, which would suddenly turn the rotation into a strength (Holland as your #4 starter? Sounds good).
I thought the Rangers could've stood pat until Colby got hurt. He is the true ace of the staff, come postseason. Now, they really only have three man staff -- Yu, Holland, and Harrison. You need a fourth, and preferably a #1 guy, which would suddenly turn the rotation into a strength (Holland as your #4 starter? Sounds good).
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:00 am to Quidam65
I listened to Nolan yesterday on the radio. He was pretty vague, but he did acknowledge that they have been looking at a deal for a pitcher for a couple of weeks. Last week he said that it wasn't a Hammels/Grienke type pitcher. Yesterday when he was asked that question, he seemed like there was more of the possibility of that happening.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:01 am to BigBoyTiger
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Game 7. 2010. Tampa Bay. This is why I know you're full of shite.
There was no Game 7 in 2010. Tampa Bay was best of five. We beat the Yanks in six then lost to the Giants in five.
And outside of (maybe) one decent game Lee did nothing postseason. (Maybe that's what CJ learned from him--how to tank in the playoffs)
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:04 am to Quidam65
Wells will be a bench player for us. MLB doesn't have a salary cap so that's not an issue.
Jered Weaver has alright stats in the post-season and besides for being a Dirtbag, be isn't annoying.
You really should just quit posting because most if not all of what you post is bogus.
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And remember, your best pitcher in the regular season is your worst postseason pitcher. And an annoying prick.
Jered Weaver has alright stats in the post-season and besides for being a Dirtbag, be isn't annoying.
You really should just quit posting because most if not all of what you post is bogus.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:05 am to BigBoyTiger
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Mitch had a good start but he's become mediocre.
He was mediocre most of last season then got hurt late. Same this year. Moreland was a flash in the pan. Unless Snyder is my future 1B or I can get someone real cheap in free agency, I need Olt to fill a big hole in 2013.
The Rangers offensive problems are due to Josh swinging at everything. I said last night he should adopt the philosophy of hitting the knuckleball--pass on the low pitches (which are almost outside the strike zone) and swing at the high ones (which he usually hits) and he'll get out of his slump.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:06 am to DEANintheYAY
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Jered Weaver has alright stats in the post-season and besides for being a Dirtbag, be isn't annoying.
I'm not talking about Weaver and you know it.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:10 am to Quidam65
Well you did say the Angels BEST pitcher retard. And Weaver clearly is our best pitcher. I mean he is 12-1 with a 2.20 ERA.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:10 am to Quidam65
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Moreland was a flash in the pan.
He's hit some big postseason home runs.
I think you discount what he can do.
Based on what I've seen from that position this year, I would take .270 with 16 HRs any day of the week. That's what he would bring.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:13 am to DEANintheYAY
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Well you did say the Angels BEST pitcher retard. And Weaver clearly is our best pitcher. I mean he is 12-1 with a 2.20 ERA.
Then why was CJ the only one winning games early?
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