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re: Sports radio last night said Baylor is seeking admission into ACC
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:12 pm to BeYou
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:12 pm to BeYou
Like I said in the OP, it was reported as a "rumor" which means it very well may not be true.
However, when I heard it I immediately thought, "Oh shite, that would cause crazy chaos if true!"
And considering how things played out for Baylor this year, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being true or partially true.
Baylor may be small but they strive and act like a major player. This would fit their ego.
However, when I heard it I immediately thought, "Oh shite, that would cause crazy chaos if true!"
And considering how things played out for Baylor this year, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being true or partially true.
Baylor may be small but they strive and act like a major player. This would fit their ego.
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:17 pm to mizzoukills
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If Florida State at one point in time entertained the possibility of joining the Big 12...it's not too far fetched that the ACC would strengthen itself with a program like Baylor.
That is a sentence you wouldn't have imagined 5 years ago.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:18 pm to mizzoukills
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Like I said in the OP, it was reported as a "rumor" which means it very well may not be true.
However, when I heard it I immediately thought, "Oh shite, that would cause crazy chaos if true!"
And considering how things played out for Baylor this year, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being true or partially true.
Baylor may be small but they strive and act like a major player. This would fit their ego.
It's possible but highly unlikely.
We will be lucky to change the Big 12 by laws this season at best. There is 0 talk of expansion to 12 teams, only petitioning the NCAA to allow us to play a CGG. The petition will likely be shot down anyways.
Just changing the conference by-laws will be hard enough though as coaches who are deemed "co-champions" get their bonus checks regardless if they are the "real" champ or the co-champ. We will be lucky if that happens this off season.
The only other P5 conference we would fit in though is the ACC. PAC12 doesn't like our religious affiliation, we don't offer anything towards the SEC nor does the SEC need anyone else, Big10 has no need for us either.
If conference realignment happens again, our best bet would be the ACC but I only see that happening if we are forced to go and not on our own.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:19 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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Maryland says hello. Changing conferences was big enough for them to just pay the buyout.
The ACC didn't have a Grant of Rights when Maryland left.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:51 pm to mizzoukills
Can you at least name the station and talking head that mentioned this? It really sounds like you pulled this straight out of your arse.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:55 pm to Dr RC
Kind of specific for me to pull this totally out of my arse.
Believe me or not. I don't care. I heard this on the radio.
And like I said a few times before, it's just a rumor and mostly likely not true.
Believe me or not. I don't care. I heard this on the radio.
And like I said a few times before, it's just a rumor and mostly likely not true.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:56 pm to Dr RC
Baylor would be stupid to NOT be putting out feelers. The Big 12 could be a dead conference walking, and everyone is going to be left scrambling if/when Texas bolts for the Pac-12. If Texas feels they cannot compete for the national title on a fair footing with other programs, they will take off, and likely take OU with them. They'll pay off the grant of rights somehow.
It won't happen this year. And it probably won't happen next. But if another Big 12 team gets hosed, the most likely scenario is Texas bolts pre-emptively with OU. OU will take OSU with them, and to go to 16, the Pac-12 will accept either Texas Tech or TCU as a bit of a poison pill (more likely to be Tech because they are a public school).
This leaves the other schools in scramble mode. Kansas likely can find a home in the Big Ten in this scenario, maybe taking KSU with them. I don't know their AAU membership status.
That leaves TCU, Baylor, WVU, and Iowa St trying to either get an ACC or an SEC bid. WVU has an in on the ACC, and the AC might just say WVU and make ND a full member. Baylor needs to start laying the groundwork NOW for the Apocalypse. It's not coming right away, but it is coming. The ACC is a more likely lifeboat than the SEC, which would be even better, but I don't think there's much interest on the SEC's end.
It won't happen this year. And it probably won't happen next. But if another Big 12 team gets hosed, the most likely scenario is Texas bolts pre-emptively with OU. OU will take OSU with them, and to go to 16, the Pac-12 will accept either Texas Tech or TCU as a bit of a poison pill (more likely to be Tech because they are a public school).
This leaves the other schools in scramble mode. Kansas likely can find a home in the Big Ten in this scenario, maybe taking KSU with them. I don't know their AAU membership status.
That leaves TCU, Baylor, WVU, and Iowa St trying to either get an ACC or an SEC bid. WVU has an in on the ACC, and the AC might just say WVU and make ND a full member. Baylor needs to start laying the groundwork NOW for the Apocalypse. It's not coming right away, but it is coming. The ACC is a more likely lifeboat than the SEC, which would be even better, but I don't think there's much interest on the SEC's end.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:04 pm to Baloo
Just don't see Texas to the pac 12 working out very well. If you are a Texas high school recruit, do you want to playing west coast teams, or competing against teams in southwest or SEC country?
Just seems like a bad fit which could hurt them from a recruiting perspective.
Just seems like a bad fit which could hurt them from a recruiting perspective.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:09 pm to Baloo
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That leaves TCU, Baylor, WVU, and Iowa St trying to either get an ACC or an SEC bid. WVU has an in on the ACC, and the AC might just say WVU and make ND a full member. Baylor needs to start laying the groundwork NOW for the Apocalypse. It's not coming right away, but it is coming. The ACC is a more likely lifeboat than the SEC, which would be even better, but I don't think there's much interest on the SEC's end.
The good ol boys in NC aren't fans of WVU due to our academics. (cough unc) Maybe by letting Louisville in they would think about us this time but I would't get my hopes up.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:19 pm to Chicken
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Just don't see Texas to the pac 12 working out very well. If you are a Texas high school recruit, do you want to playing west coast teams, or competing against teams in southwest or SEC country?
I think it would be badass to play away games at USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, Washington, etc.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:19 pm to Chicken
Chicken
Where could Texas go (other than staying put in a floundering conference)? The SEC isn't going to extend an invitation and jeapardize conference unity and contracts to add a well known conference killer like Texas.
The Big 10?
The ACC?
Your argument is almost the same for every other conference except the SEC, and you better believe that A&M would veto Texas admission.
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Just don't see Texas to the pac 12 working out very well. If you are a Texas high school recruit, do you want to playing west coast teams, or competing against teams in southwest or SEC country? Just seems like a bad fit which could hurt them from a recruiting perspective.
Where could Texas go (other than staying put in a floundering conference)? The SEC isn't going to extend an invitation and jeapardize conference unity and contracts to add a well known conference killer like Texas.
The Big 10?
The ACC?
Your argument is almost the same for every other conference except the SEC, and you better believe that A&M would veto Texas admission.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:22 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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Maryland says hello. Changing conferences was big enough for them to just pay the buyout
That ended up being around $30 million, Baylor would be giving up over $240 million.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:32 pm to Baloo
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It won't happen this year. And it probably won't happen next. But if another Big 12 team gets hosed, the most likely scenario is Texas bolts pre-emptively with OU. OU will take OSU with them, and to go to 16, the Pac-12 will accept either Texas Tech or TCU as a bit of a poison pill (more likely to be Tech because they are a public school).
It seems to me the GOR would still put a stop to this. The remaining ISU, KSU, TCU, Tech, type schools just have to invite a couple replacement midmajors to remain a conference and then they can claim the financial rights to OU, Texas, etc for more than a decade.
The Big 12 does look unstable but the GOR has put off the collapse for a decent period of time IMO.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:35 pm to Chicken
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Just don't see Texas to the pac 12 working out very well. If you are a Texas high school recruit, do you want to playing west coast teams, or competing against teams in southwest or SEC country? Just seems like a bad fit which could hurt them from a recruiting perspective.
and they would have to give up their precious longhorn network...
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:49 pm to molsusports
The Grant of Rights is not a complete bar. If Texas wants to go, they'll go. and if they find a home for half of the league's members, really, it will be left to just a few schools to sue. And if they get offers to other conferences, that will mitigate their damages.
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Texas' BEST case then is bolting with the four, taking care of TCU and Baylor by getting them in the SEC, Kansas to the Big 10, and WVU to the ACC. That would only leave them with two schools (KSU and ISU) to pay, split amongst eight schools who would all be in breach.
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Texas' BEST case then is bolting with the four, taking care of TCU and Baylor by getting them in the SEC, Kansas to the Big 10, and WVU to the ACC. That would only leave them with two schools (KSU and ISU) to pay, split amongst eight schools who would all be in breach.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:00 pm to Baloo
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Texas' BEST case then is bolting with the four, taking care of TCU and Baylor by getting them in the SEC
Will. Not. Happen.
I'll be gawd-damned
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:02 pm to mizzoukills
I too don't think the PAC 12 would be a great fit for Texas.
Texas could go independent.
Texas could go independent.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:18 pm to E12IC
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The good ol boys in NC aren't fans of WVU due to our academics. (cough unc) Maybe by letting Louisville in they would think about us this time but I would't get my hopes up.
It's SEC or bust for WVU. The Big 12 is going to collapse eventually so if the SEC doesn't ever take us then we are fricked.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:18 pm to Chicken
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of course, Texas A&M could schedule them as a OOC game.
Would never happen both teams are scared
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