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re: Southern Miss Scholarships Revoked for Racial Chant
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:44 am to hendersonshands
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:44 am to hendersonshands
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It's not a huge deal.
I also think the punishment wasn't a huge deal in the grand scheme of things. I am guessing that they will probably be readmitted at some point to the band and their scholarships reinstated.
Expelling the students would have been harsh, but I don't think removing extra benefits that they were provided to represent the school is out of line.
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:45 am to hendersonshands
quote:It's also not a huge deal for them to have their scholarships revoked. They're allowed to go to school; they just have to pay for it themselves or find another benefactor. What's the big deal?
I know Puerto Rico is different, but still. It's not a huge deal.
This post was edited on 3/20/12 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:45 am to M Le Rip
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They're not even kicked out of school, brother. They just have to pay for it themselves. This reaction is completely appropriate.
Yep. The band is representing the school in an official capacity, so it should be held to a higher standard than regular students.
If you embarrass the school while wearing the uniform, it's reasonable to not let you wear the uniform anymore. And if you're not in the band, you don't get a band scholly.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:46 am to M Le Rip
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It's also not a huge deal for them to have their scholarships revoked.
It kind of is. We cant even taunt our opponents anymore. This country really is a huge pussy now.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:51 am to M Le Rip
For a lot of schools, the pep bands are encouraged to get under the skin of the other team. Just because someone took offense to one thing, doesn't mean you should shut the shite down. Put them on probation or something.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:53 am to bbap
quote:Thinking that this is a big deal = pussification of America.
It kind of is. We cant even taunt our opponents anymore. This country really is a huge pussy now.
USM: I'll pay for you to go to school. I'll also pay for you to go to Pittsburgh and play on national tv for one of our basketball games and pay you a nominal stipend for the work you do. This total package, over the course of four years, is worth tens of thousands.
Douche: Where's your green card?
USM: We offered you what we considered to be a generous package, and you responded in part by doing something on national tv that embarrasses us and makes us look like a bunch of stupid rednecks. We find that action to be insulting to us, especially since you were doing it on our buck. We welcome you to continue your education here at USM, but you will have to find another way to pay for it. We bid you good day.
Anybody who finds this to be unreasonable or indicative of America's pussification is a moron.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:55 am to hendersonshands
quote:Right, but USM doesn't want to pay for them to go to college. So that kind of ends the issue since it's their money and not yours.
For a lot of schools, the pep bands are encouraged to get under the skin of the other team. Just because someone took offense to one thing, doesn't mean you should shut the shite down. Put them on probation or something.
When you're going to school on someone else's tab, you're basically at the mercy of their whims. It's their money.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:57 am to M Le Rip
They represent the whole school and should be especially careful on a nationally broadcasted game. It's pretty embarrassing for the alumni. For a school that is fighting to make a name for itself, any negative coverage isn't good. Not to mention the sorority girls there who made national headlines for dressing in blackface.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:58 am to M Le Rip
I think letters of apology would have been enough.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 12:00 pm to hendersonshands
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pep bands are encouraged to get under the skin of the other team
This however, doesn't sound like it was a unified band chant or cheer, otherwise I suspect you would see the director reprimanded.
The kids used a racial stereotype to try and get under the skin of a player and that doesn't show very good judgement. If they were just regular students in the stands, this would not be an issue. The problem for them is that they were officially representing the school, and as such, different standards apply. I am sure the school would have had a similar response if they were chanting "F*ck your mother!" or something similar. It makes the school look bad.
I view it as being an employee of a company. If I go out and get boozed up and get a public intoxication and do something stupid and it gets caught on tape, any repercussions are on me. If I was to do the same thing in my company uniform and damage the image of my company, I am sure I would face some type of disciplinary action from my employer.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 12:03 pm to M Le Rip
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Thinking that this is a big deal = pussification of America.
pretty much
Posted on 3/20/12 at 12:14 pm to PHXTigers
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"This is a teachable moment, not only for these students..."
Yeah, teaching them how to take out a student loan and never say shite again. quote:
I don't pay attention to that nonsense, especially because Puerto Rico is a commonwealth, so we don't need no type of papers."
We don't need no stinkin' badges! quote:" when he read this article and saw his double-negatives.
Rodriguez said he realized that there are "ignorant people,
Posted on 3/20/12 at 12:52 pm to Waffle House
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If they were just regular students in the stands, this would not be an issue. The problem for them is that they were officially representing the school, and as such, different standards apply. I am sure the school would have had a similar response if they were chanting "F*ck your mother!" or something similar. It makes the school look bad.
I view it as being an employee of a company. If I go out and get boozed up and get a public intoxication and do something stupid and it gets caught on tape, any repercussions are on me. If I was to do the same thing in my company uniform and damage the image of my company, I am sure I would face some type of disciplinary action from my employer.
I kige this.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:40 pm to bbap
quote:I think you don't understand what I'm saying, brother!
quote:
Thinking that this is a big deal = pussification of America.
pretty much
Posted on 3/20/12 at 2:22 pm to bbap
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any reaction is an overreaction. nothing at all should have happened to them.
Surely you're not serious?
This post was edited on 3/20/12 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 3/20/12 at 2:24 pm to Waffle House
quote:
I view it as being an employee of a company. If I go out and get boozed up and get a public intoxication and do something stupid and it gets caught on tape, any repercussions are on me. If I was to do the same thing in my company uniform and damage the image of my company, I am sure I would face some type of disciplinary action from my employer.
This.
I personally am not making a huge deal out of this issue, but since they were on scholarship and made asses out of themselves, they deserve to face the consequences.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 2:26 pm to SpartyGator
I'm willing to bet their "scholarships" that are revoked are similar to the $1,000 scholarship every Tiger Band member gets...
Posted on 3/20/12 at 2:33 pm to hendersonshands
quote:Hendo you do know Shreveport isn't a different country right?
We have our student section behind the other team's bench, most foreign players laugh when you make fun of their country.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 2:49 pm to PHXTigers
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"where's your green card."
quote:
at a Puerto Rican player
Dumbass hicks got what they deserved. How'd they get into college anyway?
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