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re: Sources: LeBron to win 4th MVP

Posted on 5/3/13 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13722 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 7:09 pm to
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I thought you've said Mj was the GOAT before


And always will. I don't really care what Bron does from here-out.


That's so fricking ignorant Peej

If he wins the MVP for the next 5 years and wins the Finals and Finals MVP and scoring leader and Defensive MVP.

Not saying it will happen but you can't just dismiss a player and say "I don't care what he does"

When you say that you can't be taken seriously
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75407 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:24 pm to
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We have this exact thread once a week or so...and I love every second of them



True, and I usually don't start them. Although I posted an item that was on ESPN.

Although, they do get interesting
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75407 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:26 pm to
I'm a big MJ guy, but I've always respected LB's game and love to watch him(although I've bashed him in the past, I will admit as well). He'll definitely be up there when it's all said and done.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 8:27 pm
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
716 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:01 am to
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Lebron is on pace to be the second greatest ever IMO. Jordan is just marginally more efficient and successful.


How do you expect people to take your post serious when you say something like this? Did you watch basketball this year? Lebron's season this year rivals Jordan's 88-89 season as one of the most efficient seasons ever.

This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 11:06 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110737 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:30 am to
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How do you expect people to take your post serious when you say something like this?
Because MJ for his career has a slightly higher PER than Lebron.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:30 am to
Look at them over the course of the careers. Jordan is marginally more efficient. I am not just looking at this one season.

Jordan has had multiple seasons that at least rival or maybe are even better than Lebron 2012-2013.

It seems like your reading comprehension and overly assuming nature are what is at fault.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71354 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:33 am to
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LeBron is at the bottom when it comes to the numbers that count





Such a pathetic argument.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:40 am to
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When you say that you can't be taken seriously


true but no one takes heat "fans: serious either
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110737 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:02 pm to
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true but no one takes heat "fans: serious either
To be fair to all parties, no one takes you seriously either when it comes to Heat talk.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:06 pm to
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To be fair to all parties, no one takes you seriously either when it comes to Heat talk


what have i said in this thread that is wrong. I don't have on the heat i hate on the heat "fans"
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:19 pm to
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Jordan has had multiple seasons that at least rival or maybe are even better than Lebron 2012-2013.

He has a few seasons that equal what LeBron did this year, but so does LeBron. It's not like this is the first year LeBron has been insanely good. He's been doing this for the past 5-6 years.

Insofar as Shel's argument that Jordan's career PER is higher than LeBron that's a silly argument. And I'm disappointed. LeBron's rookie season kills his career PER in an unfair manner. Prime for Prime their production is basically the same, whether you look at PER or WS/48 (which I VASTLY prefer).
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:35 pm to
I know. Both of them have had quite a few disgustingly good seasons.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110737 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:38 pm to
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Insofar as Shel's argument that Jordan's career PER is higher than LeBron that's a silly argument. And I'm disappointed.
Meh, it wasn't really an argument as much as just throwing that out there in response to the poster saying that is why we can't take VKC serious, that is the silly post lol.

quote:

LeBron's rookie season kills his career PER in an unfair manner
Well that hardly seems logical considering MJ's 2 Wizards years.

But it's all irrelevant to the main premise that it's close, you can argue it either way, but to chastise a guy for saying MJ is marginally more efficient is silly.
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Clemens
Member since Feb 2008
1233 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:43 pm to
MJ beat the monstars you tards
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:43 pm to
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Meh, it wasn't really an argument as much as just throwing that out there in response to the poster saying that is why we can't take VKC serious, that is the silly post lol.

Exactly. I was saying the same thing with my post about Jordan having similarly great years compared to Lebron's current fantastic season.

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Well that hardly seems logical considering MJ's 2 Wizards years.

Yup. He shot like 41% or something horrid in his penultimate season.

I do not like discounting years. Jordan should get a little bump for having a better rookie season. Then again, Jordan was 21 and Lebron had a little better WS/48 by his third season. You have to include their whole careers. Why exclude more data? No reason to be selective.

Random interesting thought about WS/48:

Both players starting leading the league in this stat in their age 24 seasons.

Jordan proceeded to lead the league for the next eight full seasons through age 33 (obviously, his shortened 1994-1995 was not league leading.

How long do you think Lebron can lead the league in WS/48? Age 33 sounds about right to me.
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:48 pm to
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Your list means NOTHING..................
So when someone uses actual facts you say it means nothing, but you claim your opinions are "facts"?
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25113 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:22 pm to
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So when someone uses actual facts you say it means nothing, but you claim your opinions are "facts"?


Duh
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5147 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:06 pm to
SOO.. It appears LeBron got 120 out of 121 1st place votes.. With Carmelo getting the only other vote.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25113 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:18 pm to
Whoever voted for Melo is a jackass.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:18 pm to
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No, he could win the next 6 championships in a row and people will still say Jordan is better, because of the "good ole days" nostalgia.


It's hardly nostalgia. The 1990s was the best and most competitive era of basketball. Today's game pales in comparison. Almost every other sport is better -- sans boxing -- but the 1990s was the pinnacle -- thus far -- of the game of basketball.

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