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re: Something tells me Raiders left tackle Jared Veldheer has been juicing

Posted on 3/27/13 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Black n Gold
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 10:08 am to
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And I don't think he's on PED's (or any more than any other player). He lacks the massive veins and chiseled muscle definition.


I have to shake my head every time a hear a woman talk about a huge guy and PEDs. Women don't think a man is on PEDs unless he looks like this...



Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:00 am to
HGH works bro.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:02 am to
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Why has size and speed increased so greatly over time? Today's players on average are bigger, stronger and faster than guys from the recent past(80's and 90's). I would have to science(aka PEDs) are way more advanced. They develop certain compounds for the sole purpose to circumvent drug testing.



fricking lulz. Average height and weight for ALL Americans have also increased.

Is everyone juicing?

Nevermind the actual advances in training methodology and nutrition...Nah, it's all juice!

Is this how you console yourself for being 5'4" and 100 lbs overweight?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:07 am to
The average height in the '80's and '90's is the same as today. Weight has increased because people are fatter.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:09 am to
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The average height in the '80's and '90's is the same as today.
why did you stop in the 80s?

Is that the first time they played football? link?
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:13 am to
ABC News

Interesting Read.
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:19 pm to
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“I’ve got a message for my union: Stop the posturing and get the HGH testing done. It’s time to get it done. You know, I think it’s more prevalent in our league than you would think. There’s probably more than 10 percent of guys taking HGH. And we have to get it out,” Fletcher said, via Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post. “As a player who’s [been in the league] for 15 years and has done it the right way, I want a good, clean game. I want a level playing surface. I don’t want to have all this posturing and ‘Oh, well, can we trust the credibility of this guy, this test?’ and all that. Stop the madness and let’s get the test done.’


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Players in football are using PEDs. It's happening.

When Ray Lewis comes back in 6 weeks from an injury that ends most seasons, it's fair to ask wtf. He had a torn tricep. Justin Smith, one of the best D-linemen in the game, had a partially torn tricep and went from all-pro to turnstyle when he stepped back out on the field. Yet Lewis was able play at a high level with no apparent ill effects of a much worse version of the same injury.

Considering the NFL currently DOES NOT TEST for HGH, EPO, anabolic steroids etc, and their testing procedure is so fricking lax that even when a guy gets caught his suspension ends up being revoked due to poor documentation (Richard Sherman), it's time to call BS and expect better from both the league and the union.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:20 pm to
Lol at 10 percent


Most of the league is likely juicing, and guess what? Noone cares.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:22 pm to
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Yet Lewis was able play at a high level with no apparent ill effects of a much worse version of the same injury.


This is where you are wrong. He was fricking terrible when he came back. Ellerbe overshadowed Lewis so much, he got paid a ton of cash to go to Miami.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:25 pm to
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Lol at 10 percent


10% is probably the percentage of players not currently using. Why would any NFL player not take a PED when they can most likely get away with it, and the guy across from them does and is trying to remove your head?
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:26 pm to
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This is where you are wrong. He was fricking terrible when he came back. Ellerbe overshadowed Lewis so much, he got paid a ton of cash to go to Miami.


Well that depends on your definition of terrible, when I say high level, I mean 90-95% of his usual self, not that he was Ray Lewis of 8 years ago.

Justin Smith was not anything like 95% of his usual level or even 90% of the level of an average 3-4 d-lineman.
Posted by lsu5803tiger
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 2:03 pm to
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fricking lulz. Average height and weight for ALL Americans have also increased.

Is everyone juicing?

Nevermind the actual advances in training methodology and nutrition...Nah, it's all juice!

Is this how you console yourself for being 5'4" and 100 lbs overweight?


LOL...gfy. Go pump your estats on the OT. Its just a simple fact, deal with it. With the average career length in the NFL and how much money on the line, why wouldn't they? Now players recover faster and regain most of their ability they had before injury(HGH cough cough) than ever before. I'm not knocking them but its a fact. Make sure to eat your chicken and broccoli, take your multi and say your prayers so one day you can be 220lbs at 7% bf.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 2:07 pm to
dude legitimately looks like the incredible Hulk, wow
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 2:12 pm to
Someone put that thing down before it multiplies
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 2:14 pm to
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And I don't think he's on PED's (or any more than any other player). He lacks the massive veins and chiseled muscle definition


What an idiot.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 4:00 pm to
no doubt. Where's his bitch tits, belly bloat, and fanny pack?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 4:05 pm to
HGH is a hell of a drug
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 4:06 pm to
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Why has size and speed increased so greatly over time? Today's players on average are bigger, stronger and faster than guys from the recent past(80's and 90's). I would have to science(aka PEDs) are way more advanced. They develop certain compounds for the sole purpose to circumvent drug testing.


This is true, but when I was in HS decades ago, we had a lineman who was 6-7, 250. He was by far the most massive player on our team or any team we played. Nowadays someone that size in HS isn't anything remarkable. The size trend starts at puberty, and I'd wager that almost none of them are juicing at that age.
Posted by minimal
Member since Feb 2007
755 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 4:37 pm to
Taking off your head, but mostly taking money out of your pocket when he signs the big contract.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 9:01 pm to
Yep
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