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re: Someone explain "heads up" tackling to me.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:21 am to OldSouth
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:21 am to OldSouth
It's for novices and beginners. It's less effective and pansy for those past 49ers, Ravens, Steelers linebacker crews but its safe. Too many guys close their eyes and lose sight of their point of tackle. Vets and savvy tacklers know how to tackle like a ram without jarring their spines. It only takes a portion of the force to get injured head on. We aren't built for this shite.
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:35 am to jg8623
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Because it's a normal human instinct to lower your head when your about to get hit
No it isn't. Lowering your head is the result of players becoming essentially invulnerable due to their headgear making their faces so protected. Pre-facemask and even before that in the pre plastic shell helmet days you'd have guys get bloody noses and busted teeth, but NO ONE was getting their necks broken because no one lowered their head blindly like a fricking missile because it would be putting your face in harm's way...and getting your face busted up kind of hurts.
No facemask, and your point is the opposite. People don't lower their face into harm's way...unless they think it's not going to be. It's human nature to AVOID getting your face hit...unless you've learned over time it's not gonna get hit.
We've traded bloody noses and busted teeth for spinal injuries and brain trauma.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:36 am to OldSouth
We tell kids to eagle out , spread their wings and grab after making contact and seeing what you hit.
A kid looking down will get juked, easily
A kid looking down will get juked, easily
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:54 am to MWP
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True. In the NFL, you rarely see good form tackling. I hardly ever see clean wrap ups anymore. It's like they try to hit you with no hand wrap-up and if you go down, fine, if not, well frick it. I see better tackling in pee wee, where I guess players get better coaching.
This is what gets me. We were always taught to keep our heads up and see what you're tackling (waist, belt buckle, etc.) and get your helmet on the ball. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but it's what I always remember.
In the last 20 years or so tackling has devolved into a bunch of spears and head shots. More about getting on Sportscenter and making the offensive guy your bitch by knocking them out than making a tackle. It's just a ghetto way of playing the game. Poor coaching at youth levels. Now we see all these rules trying to eliminate those kinds of hits but most players don't know any better anymore. It's hurt the game and added to the negative image that football has developed.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:36 am to Nature Boy
The target is to put your shoulder in the runners thigh and wrap and squeeze his legs.
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This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 11:37 am
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:36 am to bird35
This is what we teach our fourth graders and it works well.
If your defensive players are getting trucked then they are to high.
Shoulder pads to thighs. Keep feet driving and the runner goes down.
If your defensive players are getting trucked then they are to high.
Shoulder pads to thighs. Keep feet driving and the runner goes down.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 11:40 am
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:55 am to Forkbeard3777
quote:The technique doesn't teach spearing the thigh. It's more methodical and involves going through the hip while wrapping the hip/legs really hard. If done right, it should be REALLY hard to run through the tackle.
It seems you'd just bounce right off a powerful runner (Leonard Fournette, Brandon Jacobs, Mike Alstott).
Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:14 pm to OldSouth
Some of you older folks might remember LSU's Johnny Robinson who is in the NFL HOF. He did not tackle 'heads up' but he did not tackle with a hit from the crown of his helmet. If he was facing a large RB he tucked his chin to his collar bones and hit the guy low with the BACK of his helmet. He had a very long career in the NFL with no major injuries.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 2:51 pm to Zach
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NFL HOF.
No, he isn't. Odds are most of the rest of your post is bullshite also.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 3:26 pm to Big Scrub TX
Sorry, it's not the NFL HOF but it should be:
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And if you don't think my observations of his tackling are accurate, you can stick it up your arse.
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Johnny Robinson deserves to have his bust in Canton, amongst his Chiefs teammates, Buck Buchanan, Bobby Bell, Willie Lanier, Emmitt Thomas, Len Dawson, Jan Stenerud, coach Hank Stram and owner Lamar Hunt.
And if you don't think my observations of his tackling are accurate, you can stick it up your arse.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 3:27 pm to JJ27
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We've scrapped Heads Up and have gone with Hawk Tackling now. It's a rugby style that the Seahawks use. Takes the head completely out of the tackle, in theory. Ball carrier goes left, you use your left shoulder, head behind the runner, eyes through the thighs, wrap and squeeze, roll optional. There are 4-5 different tackles for different situations. I think it will be hard for kids at first who were taught differently, but could pay off down the road.
The problem with Hawk Tackling is it's a lot harder than people believe it is. If not taught and executed properly, it very easily turns into a sloppy arm tackle.
I agree it's the far superior technique, especially from a repetitive collision standpoint, but it requires alot more technique and strength than your traditional spear or clothesline tackle. You have to understand how to explode and drive with your hips and shoulders. If not you're just arm-tackling.
It'll take a while for everyone to adjust and for proper technique to filter to all, but eventually the Hawk Tackling is all anyone will be utilizing.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 4:19 pm to OldSouth
Tackle progression drills are a good start to every practice. Teaches tackler everything from the toes being dug in all the way up to head placement. Emphasis is placed on dropping hips and exploding up and through the tackle.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 4:23 pm to Zach
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Sorry, it's not the NFL HOF but it should be:
Yes, in Zach-World reality is on shifting sands indeed.
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And if you don't think my observations of his tackling are accurate, you can stick it up your arse.
Nah. We'll just leave it at another Zany Zanecdote made up for our reading pleasure.
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