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re: Some more Steph Curry ridiculousness
Posted on 2/26/16 at 12:50 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 2/26/16 at 12:50 pm to WestCoastAg
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so there we have it. when compared the career bests of these five absolute all time greats, steph currys 2016 seasons either is better or similar to
Uh...Jordan's is better. Just saying.
Curry is unreal though. Best shooter in NBA history already.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 12:52 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:what? did you not look at the stats? steph has a higher TS%, eFG%, more made threes, a higher PER, a higher ORtg, and more WS/48. the only legit thing micheal has the nod over him is he was worth 3 more points per 100 possessions
Uh...Jordan's is better. Just saying.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 12:55 pm to WestCoastAg
The rules changes have allowed this to happen. Don't get me wrong, Curry is a great player but guys can't actually defend anymore. You can't hand check, you can't pressure him 3/4 court. Curry wouldn't have near the stats had he played 25 years ago.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 12:57 pm to WestCoastAg
People aren't going to like this. They like their era. You will get a lot of no defense in todays NBA, the game has changed, rule change, yada yada. It's really a never before seen feat in sports though, his rise to stardom. I wish people could just enjoy it. I could see him being the GOAT when it's all said and done if the Warriors keep the band together.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 12:58 pm to Iron Lion
Rule changes also benefited those players. You couldn't score one basket and dribble the game out. They never would have put up those stats if it weren't for rule changes
Posted on 2/26/16 at 12:58 pm to Iron Lion
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Doesnt matter. Some old farts are going to say they dont play defense now like they did in the old days. They will find some way to put an ** by his stats just like Isiah Thomas
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The rules changes have allowed this to happen. Don't get me wrong, Curry is a great player but guys can't actually defend anymore. You can't hand check, you can't pressure him 3/4 court. Curry wouldn't have near the stats had he played 25 years ago.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:01 pm to Iron Lion
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The rules changes have allowed this to happen.
Jordan played in a very fast NBA when he put up that season
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You can't hand check,
nobody was really doing this in the 80s, either. this was a function of the bad boy pistons and their progeny
jordan's referenced season was before that era
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you can't pressure him 3/4 court.
yes you can. hell the halfcourt violation is 20% quicker than in Jordan's era
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:01 pm to td01241
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I could see him being the GOAT when it's all said and done if the Warriors keep the band together.
He's got a very long road to go for GOAT status. People are already forgetting how long and the level at which Jordan sustained dominance over the NBA.
Michael Jordan's current records:
Highest scoring average, points per game, career
Highest scoring average, points per game, playoffs
Highest scoring average, points per game, finals
Most Seasons leading the league in scoring: 10
Most Consecutive seasons leading the league in scoring: 7
Most Seasons leading the league in total points: 11
Most Seasons averaging 30 or more points per game: 8
Most Games scoring 30 or more points, career: 562
Most Playoff Points, career: 5,987
Most Playoff Games scoring 50 or more points, career: 8
Most Consecutive Playoff games scoring 50 or more points: 2
Most Playoff Games scoring 40 or more points, career: 38
Most Playoff Games scoring 30 or more points, career: 109
Most Playoff Games scoring 20 or more points, career: 173
Most Finals Consecutive games scoring 40 or more points: 4
Most Finals Consecutive games scoring 20 or more points: 35
Scoring 34 or more points in all games, any championship series: 6 games, vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals
Record 9 times all defensive team
Blocked shots by a guard, career: 893
Blocked shots by a guard, season: 131
Highest Player Efficiency Rating, career: 27.91
Only player in NBA history with more than one season of 200 steals and 100 blocked shots: 259 steals, 131 blocks
Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win Defensive Player of the Year in the same season
Only player in NBA history to score 15 or more points in all playoff games in his career: 179 games
Record 6 Finals MVP awards (2nd place is only 3)
Steph Curry Records:
Most 3 pointers in a single playoffs
?????
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:02 pm to Iron Lion
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you can't pressure him 3/4 court
This is a misnomer. Do you watch the Warriors? Teams do this a lot.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:02 pm to Iron Lion
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The rules changes have allowed this to happen. Don't get me wrong, Curry is a great player but guys can't actually defend anymore. You can't hand check, you can't pressure him 3/4 court. Curry wouldn't have near the stats had he played 25 years ago.
This is way overblown. Look-up the average scores in the 80s and early 90s. Teams were scoring more and much more. So how can anyone say defense is worse now?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:just for the record. The only referenced season is stephs. Everyone elses is just a combination of their career bests
jordan's referenced season was before that era
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:03 pm to MusclesofBrussels
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He's got a very long road to go for GOAT status.
Ok? Steph is going to blow away some of those.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:04 pm to MusclesofBrussels
quote:5 to 6 years isn't a long road?
He's got a very long road to go for GOAT status.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:04 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:And defense...by a lot.
the only legit thing micheal has the nod over him is he was worth 3 more points per 100 possessions
Steph is actually a solid defender, but MJ was the best defensive player in the league, or close to it.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:04 pm to WestCoastAg
He's not going to even come close to matching those achievements in 5 seasons
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:05 pm to WestCoastAg
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Michael:
37.1/8.0/8
53.9 FG% 50.0 3FG% 61.4 TS% 55.0 eFG%
111 made threes
31.7 PER
125 ORtg
.321 WS/48
46.4 points per 100 possessions
what year is this? when did he hit 111, 3s? or hit 50% of them?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:05 pm to Iron Lion
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You can't hand check, you can't pressure him 3/4 court. Curry wouldn't have near the stats had he played 25 years ago.
link
Dude come on. This highlight reel of Magic proves that idea that defenses were much more stingy back then is just false.
1:02 they are just standing there. 90% of these fast breaks no one picks him up at all much less 3/4 court. There may be 4-5 hand checks total. The rest of the time guys dont even have their hands up
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:05 pm to MusclesofBrussels
Basically, you are a fanboy. No shite he has a long road to go to be the best player every. Got any other super obvious shite you need to get off your chest?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:05 pm to WestCoastAg
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Everyone elses is just a combination of their career bests
ok that answers my last question
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