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CunningLinguist
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SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position

Pretty decent article. I never really thought of Joe Mauer as having a strong HOF case til now.

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From article:
C Joe Mauer
1B Pujols
2B Utley
3B Beltre/Cabrera
SS Jeter
CF Carlos Beltran
LF: none
RF: Ichiro
SP: Halladay
BP: Riviera





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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Beltre is gonna get killed by the new era of 3rd basemen much like Trammel got killed by the new generation of shortstops who dominated the game after he retired. The baseline is going to change on him. Cabrera is putting together a Hall of Fame career, but Machado is just starting his career. David Wright is the best Mets player in generation. Ryan Zimmerman would have gone down as the best National ever if Harper didn't show up. Longoria is a star in Tampa. Clearly, not all of those guys are going to the Hall, but they are changing how we think of 3rd basemen. I think Beltre will have some serious trouble unless the Rangers win the World Series.


OBUDan
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
I've been on Beltre's sneaky hall campaign for a while.

I know Mauer has a nice resume, but he would be the least sexy HoF player ever, it seems. A singles/doubles hitter that plays catcher. Yay.

ETA: Beltran should definitely get in.
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Mauer has a higher 7-year peak than the average HOF catcher and is 9 WAR away from the average HOF catcher total.


tduecen
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Belter would be the most interesting one here
He has 368 home runs and 2300 hits along with several poor seasons in Seattle and 1 great season with Dodgers. He has been the best 3B (or one of) since his year with the Red Sox and since with Rangers. 34 years old so can he put up another couple of seasons like past few?


Mitchell613
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
And he's been the best defensive 3B in baseball for a decade.

He's got the 9th most WAR of any 3B ever and will probably finish his career right around Brooks Robinson.


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Bama Bird
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Verlander?


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emmanuellewis
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
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I've been on Beltre's sneaky hall campaign for a while.


+1. He is the guy no one talks about that I think has a great case. You never know when a guy will lose it but his numbers right now are impressive. Scott Rolen will not get in but will get support and Beltre's numbers are much better than his. Throw in that he is also a great defensive player and I think he'll get in. He is young enough to put up a few more good seasons and continue to accumulate stats. It is very likely he hits 400 hrs and 2500 hits even if he were to fall off a cliff (production wise, not literally) today.


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smash williams
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
I still believe Torii has a chance.


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Vicks Kennel Club
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Mauer gets on base as well as anyone. Just because he only one season with 28 and his second highest is 13 does not mean he is not HOF quality. It was looking a little shaky when he was injured a lot for a bit there, but he is a generational and should be up for consideration.


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okietiger
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Tim Hudson, no chance for the Hall?

I believe 200 wins is going to be the "New 300" with the way starters are managed and bullpens are used.


TigerintheNO
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Buster Posey is off to a great start, when you consider he missed 2011-
ROY 2010, MVP 2012,Batting Title 2012, 2 Rings(2010& '12)


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mattz1122
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Does Utley have the longevity to get in? No doubt the best hitting 2B of this generation and he was great in the field. Great power and very efficient base stealer. From 2005 to 2009 he OPS'd .922. But he hasn't played more than 115 games since then and he has just 1300 career hits. No MVPs to help his cause.


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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Two of his teammates won MVP's, and I thought Utley was the best player on the team.

He looks great so far this season.


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TigerintheNO
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
Utley's numbers look a lot like Brandon Phillips, he just 3 years older and has 3 less gold gloves. And I've never considered Phillips HOF material.

CU .287/212/775 1352 hits 128 stolen bases
BP .272/160/682 1349 hits 156 stolen bases


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GatorsGators
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
The defensive metrics really overrate Utley's defense, inflating his WAR/JAWS. His counting stats aren't anywhere near where they need to be for him to get into the HOF.

David Wright has just as good of a resume right now (minus the ring) and he's four years younger than Utley. Utley has a long way to go.
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lsu480
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
All this JAWS and WAR shite is retarded. Lets talk batting average, HRs and RBIs not this geek stuff.


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lsu480
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
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Tim Hudson, no chance for the Hall? I believe 200 wins is going to be the "New 300" with the way starters are managed and bullpens are used.


Dorks don't care about wins and loses for pitchers!
This post was edited on 7/26 at 7:41 pm


GatorsGators
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
That's because the Hall is for individual players and wins is a team stat.
This post was edited on 7/26 at 7:43 pm


lsu480
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re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by position
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That's because the Hall is for individual players and wins is a team stat.


Meh. For the vast majority of baseball history pitchers, at least starters, were judged on ERA, Ks and how many wins and losses they had. IMO HOF caliber starting pitchers should have a shitload of wins. Things have changed a little now that pitchers come out earlier but I still think a pitcher blaming a loss on his team is a cop out unless his team scores less than 2 runs. I guess I am old school but I like traditional stats better than this new crap!


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