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re: Sean Payton - Is he still a top tier coach in the NFL?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:29 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:29 pm to lsupride87
quote:Peyton >>> Brady
Belechick is playing football with Bilbo Baggins at Qb and be best an AFC championship favorite 27-0
Elite coaches adapt
Peyton has made the playoffs 50% of the time as a coach
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:33 pm to Street Hawk
no, his refusal to get rid of his minions and let the DC he brought in to establish a staff has cost us any ability to build a defense and coach up young talent.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:36 pm to Jizzamo311
Doesn't he make the draft decisions?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:36 pm to dabigfella
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Drew Brees in his prime would have made Les Miles a super bowl winning coach as well
bullshite, Les would have Kuhn running the ball every other possession
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:44 pm to Street Hawk
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:45 pm to Street Hawk
Classic case of a coach who fell off when he started making the personnel decisions. Great coach. Piss poor GM.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:46 pm to lsupride87
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Belechick is playing football with Bilbo Baggins at Qb and be best an AFC championship favorite 27-0
You're talking about 1 position. The amount of injuries the Saints have this year might be unprecedented.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:47 pm to Street Hawk
I don't think he is.
Obviously he has input on who is drafted and/or signed. Obviously he has input on which coaches come onto the staff. Obviously a lot of players brought in haven't worked out. The passing offense is always good, but the play-calling is erratic and the defense always sucks. Sucks.
Drew Brees is the only reason he still has a head coaching job in NOLA.
Obviously he has input on who is drafted and/or signed. Obviously he has input on which coaches come onto the staff. Obviously a lot of players brought in haven't worked out. The passing offense is always good, but the play-calling is erratic and the defense always sucks. Sucks.
Drew Brees is the only reason he still has a head coaching job in NOLA.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:49 pm to TTsTowel
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Drew Brees is the only reason he still has a head coaching job in NOLA.
and Sean Payton is the only reason Drew Brees will sniff the HOF
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:50 pm to Lester Earl
Loomis is the issue
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:51 pm to Lester Earl
Are you saying he's a system player?
I agree that they benefit from each other, but Drew Brees could be successful without Sean Payton. Sean Payton would find it much more difficult to be successful without Drew Brees.
I agree that they benefit from each other, but Drew Brees could be successful without Sean Payton. Sean Payton would find it much more difficult to be successful without Drew Brees.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:52 pm to TTsTowel
Luke mccown completed over 80% of his passes for 300+ yards AT Carolina last season. That was a stout defense and the backup moved the ball up and down the field all day long.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:52 pm to wildtigercat93
Loomis & Payton to an extent as far as player personnel. But Payton has relinquished play calling duties as well as personnel stuff, so at least he is recognizing the faults. We're a team in transition, but its hard to argue with his track record. Even after some bad seasons, his W/L is still well over .500
He's fielded 2 legit super bowl caliber teams. We can't do better and most other teams couldnt either.
He's fielded 2 legit super bowl caliber teams. We can't do better and most other teams couldnt either.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:56 pm to TTsTowel
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Are you saying he's a system player?
yes, but so is just about every great QB ever. That has never been an insult to me.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:58 pm to Street Hawk
Outside of Bill B, looking at this roster I don't think many other top coaches would be doing much better. Loomis has really let him down.
Maybe he doesn't have the magic in NO anymore but I'd love to have him in SF.
Maybe he doesn't have the magic in NO anymore but I'd love to have him in SF.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:59 pm to wildtigercat93
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Loomis is the issue
Loomis doesn't pick the players the Saints acquire. That's Payton
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:01 pm to RemouladeSawce
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looking at this roster
the one Payton helped assemble?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:03 pm to TTsTowel
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Sean Payton would find it much more difficult to be successful without Drew Brees.
nah
Payton almost traded for backup Romo. He would have been OK
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:05 pm to Street Hawk
Do top tier coaches miss the playoffs?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:05 pm to RemouladeSawce
Loomis is a numbers guy. Payton tells him who he wants and Loomis makes the numbers work. It's been a combination of bad luck, bad talent evaluation, and Roger Goodell pounding his chest.
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