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re: Scout's "red flag" on Eli Apple (CB, tOSU): "He can't cook."
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:23 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:23 pm to Dr RC
quote:Unless the scout gave him a comprehensive psychological assessment of adaptive skills, then it's unlikely that the scout can know if he can or can't open a can of soup. Besides that's intellectual disability level if he can't do that.
its not likely the scout would mention an inability to cook if the kid could do those most basic things.
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:23 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Its kind of a problem to not be able to cook at 20?
Yes, it is. You are an adult at 20.
I'm sorry but it's not hard to slap some meat on a Foreman grill or boil some noodles.
If you can't make basic meals at that age you are not very mature and are either a coddled lazy child or a complete fool.
I'm not talking about making a damn full on Thanksgiving turkey dinner here.
shite, all you have to do is pull of YouTube and you can learn to make pretty much anything with ease.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:24 pm to Dr RC
The Bosa eval from the same article:
“Little bit of a loose cannon,” said a third scout. “I’ll call him a meathead. He also likes to go out and have a good time. Hell of a player. Plays hard.” Father, John, was a bust (seven sacks in three seasons) as a DE drafted with the 16th pick by Miami in 1987. “I did his father and he was kind of a stiff, straight-line guy,” said another scout. “This guy must have got the mom’s flexibility or something."
“Little bit of a loose cannon,” said a third scout. “I’ll call him a meathead. He also likes to go out and have a good time. Hell of a player. Plays hard.” Father, John, was a bust (seven sacks in three seasons) as a DE drafted with the 16th pick by Miami in 1987. “I did his father and he was kind of a stiff, straight-line guy,” said another scout. “This guy must have got the mom’s flexibility or something."
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:24 pm to Fun Bunch
His dad is a chef. I guarantee you he can cook. That scout really did his homework.
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:24 pm to Fun Bunch
Pretty big red flag. And the red flag isn't that he can't cook, it's that he can't take care of himself. Cooking is just one piece.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
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But that's not even cooking. It's putting a box into the microwave and putting a timer on.
yes it is
its basic but its still cooking and odds are high THAT is the kind of thing the scout was talking about.
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
They make it sound like hes totally incapable of living without assistance. If hes even close to that level then its a concern for sure.
It does show his maturity and teams should be concerned by it a bit. You don't have to be a chef but you should know how to make hamburger helper and basic follow-the-instruction meals.
It does show his maturity and teams should be concerned by it a bit. You don't have to be a chef but you should know how to make hamburger helper and basic follow-the-instruction meals.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:27 pm to Dr RC
quote:So the odds are high that he's functioning at a level of a moderate to severe Intellectual Disability?
its basic but its still cooking and odds are high THAT is the kind of thing the scout was talking about.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:29 pm to Dr RC
quote:
Yes, it is. You are an adult at 20.
I'm sorry but it's not hard to slap some meat on a Foreman grill or boil some noodles.
If you can't make basic meals at that age you are not very mature and are either a coddled lazy child or a complete fool.
I'm not talking about making a damn full on Thanksgiving turkey dinner here.
shite, all you have to do is pull of YouTube and you can learn to make pretty much anything with ease.
You're inferring what he meant by "can't cook".
People use the term "can't cook" all of the time. I've used it before and I meant I can't cook elaborate meals that well or chop vegetables with a lot of skill. I can cook steaks well, boil crawfish, bbq, burgers, etc etc.
We don't know what he meant by that. Yes, if we he can't put stuff in a microwave, then he is a functioning retard and that's a problem.
If he can't make a 7 course dinner from scratch then its not a big deal.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:31 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
So the odds are high that he's functioning at a level of a moderate to severe Intellectual Disability?
Having no life skills does not automatically equate to severe intellectual disability.
You seem to be offended that a player from your school might be a completely ignorant child who has never taken the time to learn how to do anything for himself.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:32 pm to Fun Bunch
FYI, Cooper on Peyton Manning in 1998:
He turned out ok.
He turned out ok.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:34 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
You're inferring what he meant by "can't cook".
No shite Sherlock.
Which do you think is more logical?
The scout mentioning the kid "can't cook" b/c he doesn't know how to prepare a multi course meal or that the scout mentioned it b/c he doesn't even know how to do basic things like how to make an egg or boil some noodles?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:35 pm to Dr RC
quote:No, but it's one of the two defining characteristics which is why I said "functioning at" that level. In fact, it's lower than even many indivduals with an ID.
Having no life skills does not automatically equate to severe intellectual disability.
quote:No. I'm saying that your inferences are not logical BECAUSE it's at a level so low. I don't think the scout actual meant he's incapable of cooking even a hot pocket.
You seem to be offended that a player from your school might be a completely ignorant child who has never taken the time to learn how to do anything for himself.
Just think how low functioning a person has to be be to be unable to do that at 20.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:36 pm to Dr RC
Its impossible to know. He might have simply said "I can't cook".
People say that all the time and mean varying degrees of things.
Its still stupid. He's 20. Can he play football? Has he gotten into trouble?
People say that all the time and mean varying degrees of things.
Its still stupid. He's 20. Can he play football? Has he gotten into trouble?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:37 pm to Dr RC
quote:Probably in between these two extremes, like it's used in every day life.
The scout mentioning the kid "can't cook" b/c he doesn't know how to prepare a multi course meal or that the scout mentioned it b/c he doesn't even know how to do basic things like how to make an egg or boil some noodles?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:37 pm to Fun Bunch
Yea, he had a good family and team of people surrounding him that make sure his pathetic level of ignorance didn't ruin him.
Nobody is saying that the kid is now doomed to be a failure.
That Manning turned out ok doesn't change that it's still a red flag to be an adult who doesn't know how to do basic things like make a meal.
and holy frick shite at Manning not even knowing what a fricking can opener looked like
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:39 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Just think how low functioning a person has to be be to be unable to do that at 20.
Well according to the story FB gave us brother Cooper said brother Peyton couldn't even open a can of soup so...
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:46 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
He turned out ok.
And it would have been a legit knock on drafting Manning. Whether he turned out alright doesn't matter. This is the process teams go through when drafting players. No where in there does it say Eli Apple won't be a good football player and/or won't turn out alright.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:51 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Its kind of a problem to not be able to cook at 20?
That's ridiculous.
You're a grown adult at 20. If you can't prepare your own meals, then you have issues.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:55 pm to GetCocky11
quote:
You're a grown adult at 20.
Legally yes. But in reality, not really.
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