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Posted on 8/13/12 at 1:04 pm to threeputt
Ryder Cup/Overall/Singles
Snead 10-2-1/6-1
Nicklaus 17-8-3/4-4-2
Woods 13-14-2/4-1-1
Snead 10-2-1/6-1
Nicklaus 17-8-3/4-4-2
Woods 13-14-2/4-1-1
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 8/13/12 at 1:07 pm to Cleanmatt
Snead played in the LPGA event to help that tour get some fans out, make some money and get traction.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 1:18 pm to LSUandAU
In 1942, at age 30, Snead finished 7th at the Masters, but the US Open and British Open were both cancelled. He then won the PGA Championship. During his military service and tournament cancellations, he missed playing in any majors in 1943, 1944 and 1945 (in his prime at age 31-33). His first Major in 1946, The Masters, he finished 7th, but he won the 1946 British Open (a tournament he only played 4 times).
Posted on 8/13/12 at 1:33 pm to LSUandAU
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Snead played in the LPGA event to help that tour get some fans out, make some money and get traction.
So you included an exhibition win to help back your claim of GOAT?
Nothing says best male golfer of all-time like winning a tourney against a bunch of broads playing from the white tees
Posted on 8/13/12 at 1:46 pm to LSUandAU
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In 1942, at age 30, Snead finished 7th at the Masters, but the US Open and British Open were both cancelled. He then won the PGA Championship. During his military service and tournament cancellations, he missed playing in any majors in 1943, 1944 and 1945 (in his prime at age 31-33). His first Major in 1946, The Masters, he finished 7th, but he won the 1946 British Open (a tournament he only played 4 times).
I'm not sure what this proves
Ben Hogan, who also served in WWII managed to win 2 more majors than Snead, Not to mention he suffered a life threatening car accident. He hardly ever played the PGA after his accident because at the time it was a 36 hole a day match play event and he struggled to play more than 18 holes in a day.
I think Hogan is widely considered to be more GOATish than Snead.
Since Golf is an individual sport, about the only thing you can go by to measure all players by is major championships.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 8/13/12 at 1:52 pm to SPEEDY
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So you included an exhibition win to help back your claim of GOAT?
Nothing says best male golfer of all-time like winning a tourney against a bunch of broads playing from the white tees
I can't stand people who try to make arguments, especially about GOAT, and only think narrow-mindedly. I'm sorry, but its not all about the wins.
In regards to your LPGA comment, it wasn't the fact that he won the tournament, it was what he did to bring the tour recognition. Look past wins, and think about both on and off the course.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 1:57 pm to unbeWEAVEable
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it wasn't the fact that he won the tournament, it was what he did to bring the tour recognition. Look past wins, and think about both on and off the course.
Well if part of the GOAT criteria is social impact and tour recognition then you really narrowed the field significantly since there is really one answer....Tiger.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:11 pm to Cleanmatt
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In 1962, the field consisted of Sam Snead and 14 LPGA golfers and was played over 72 holes
Ole Sammy should take that particular win off his resume. I would be embarrassed if I only won by 5 strokes in a field of women.
Oh and Jack if the GOAT
/thread
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:18 pm to SPEEDY
I would understand why you would say that, but he had the benefit of his career occurring in an age of Internet and mass media intrusion. Give that same benefit of the doubt to Snead and Jack. Of course Tiger brought the tour recognition, he had a camera in his face 24/7/365 and could tweet, Facebook, and influence through millions of dollars in sponsers.
Snead had a fricking local newspaper and a flask of whiskey, pretty much nothing else until late in his career.
Snead had a fricking local newspaper and a flask of whiskey, pretty much nothing else until late in his career.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:31 pm to unbeWEAVEable
What if Tiger played back then, with Hogan and Snead?
I'd take Hogan in his prime up against Tiger in his.
I'd take Hogan in his prime up against Tiger in his.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:31 pm to unbeWEAVEable
Bobby Jones
As an adult, he hit his stride in 1923, when he won his first U.S. Open. From that win at New York's Inwood Country Club, through his 1930 victory in the U.S. Amateur, he won 13 major championships (as they were counted at the time) in 20 attempts. Jones was the first player to win The Double, both the U.S. and British Open Championships in the same year (1926).
Grand Slam 1930
Jones is the only player ever to have won the (pre-Masters) Grand Slam, or all four major championships, in the same calendar year (1930). Jones made a bet on himself achieving this extraordinary feat with British bookmakers early in 1930, before the first tournament of the Slam, at odds of 50–1, and collected over $60,000 when he did it.[8]
Jones represented the United States in the Walker Cup five times, winning nine of his 10 matches, and the U.S. won the trophy all five times. He served as playing captain of the U.S. team in 1928 and 1930. He also won two other tournaments against professionals: the 1927 Southern Open and the 1930 Southeastern Open. Jones was a lifelong member of the Atlanta Athletic Club (at the club's original site, now the East Lake Golf Club), and the Capital City Club in Atlanta.
Jones is considered one of the five giants of the 1920s American sports scene, along with baseball's Babe Ruth, boxing's Jack Dempsey, football's Red Grange, and tennis player Bill Tilden.[9][10][11] He was the first recipient of the AAU's Sullivan Award as the top amateur athlete in the United States. He is the only sports figure to receive two ticker-tape parades in New York City, the first in 1926 and the second in 1930. Jones is memorialized in Augusta, Georgia at the Golf Gardens and has the Bobby Jones Expressway, also known as Interstate 520, named for him.
LINK
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:33 pm to Zach
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"I was in the gallery at a PGA event here a long time ago and I was following Sam Snead. In those days the tee box was back there against that fence and the distance to the hole was 600 yards. Sam Snead reached the green in 2 strokes."
Pretty freaking impressive. But the distance still is 600 yards from the blues. Technically listed at 618 I think. Dead straight. The longest hole in Shreveport Bossier. I kill the ball and have never made it in two.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:34 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I don't believe that shite for one second
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:35 pm to iheartlsu
That is tough to chew on.
Driver/driver off the deck?
WTF? Even now that would be tough.
Driver/driver off the deck?
WTF? Even now that would be tough.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:37 pm to iheartlsu
I hear ya.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:47 pm to iheartlsu
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I don't believe that shite for one second
Snead was known for his distance.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:47 pm to LSUandAU
This is interesting.
I've overheard people who've said that back in the 70's the benchmark for GOAT was total wins and that benchmark was changed to Total # of Majors won when Jack couldn't catch Snead.
I've overheard people who've said that back in the 70's the benchmark for GOAT was total wins and that benchmark was changed to Total # of Majors won when Jack couldn't catch Snead.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:55 pm to treble hook
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Ole Sammy should take that particular win off his resume. I would be embarrassed if I only won by 5 strokes in a field of women.
It was held on a par 3 course, so that obviously tends to even things up.
From Wikipedia Royal Poinciana Plaza Invitational:
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The Royal Poinciana Invitational was a golf tournament on the LPGA Tour in 1961 and 1962. It was played at Palm Beach Golf Club in Palm Beach, Florida. The course was a par-3 course.
In 1961, the field consisted of 24 men and women, both amateurs and professionals. The tournament was 54 holes and won by Louise Suggs by one stroke over local pro Dub Pagan. Sam Snead was third, two shots behind.
In 1962, the field consisted of Sam Snead and 14 LPGA golfers and was played over 72 holes. Snead won by five strokes over Mickey Wright, making him the only man to win an official LPGA Tour event.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:56 pm to treble hook
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Ole Sammy should take that particular win off his resume. I would be embarrassed if I only won by 5 strokes in a field of women
Sammy didn't put that on his resume...it is merely a footnote, as he helped the LPGA Tour in its early days, by drawing fans, money, etc.
His resume is plenty without it:
Most PGA Wins all-time: 82 missing a lot of tourneys due to wartime cancellations and his own military service (in his prime years)
Senior wins: 14(including 6 PGA Sr Championships)
Other pro wins: 30(US and elsewhere)
Oldest player to make the cut at a major and oldest to win on tour.
Ryder Cup: 10-2-1 overall record with 6-1 singles record (6 is most by an Amarican) and he missed 4 Cups due to WWII
Played in 4 British Opens, winning one and finishing 6th, 11th and missing cut (at age 64) in the others. Many other majors were cancelled during WWII, during his prime, but he still managed to win 7 regular majors, plus the 6 Sr. PGA's.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 2:57 pm
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