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Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/27/09 at 3:10 pm to
Oh and BTW, I am a Peyton Manning fan, I just don't see why it's so difficult to accept the fact that Brees has been on his level for the last two seasons.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59158 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 3:11 pm to
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Who would you pick first on your fantasy team: Brees or Manning?





you are not seriously invoking Fantasy Football rankings in your argument are you?


Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57450 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 3:20 pm to
Manning: 2008 - 339 points
Manning: 2009 - 173 points
Manning: Total - 512 points

Brees: 2008 - 414 points
Brees: 2009 - 163 points
Brees: Total - 577 points

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59158 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 3:48 pm to
Dude, really, you are evaulating NFL players based on Fantasy Numbers

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57450 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

Dude, really, you are evaulating NFL players based on Fantasy Numbers


Yeah I guess I would laugh it off too if I had no answer for it.

Posted by Opinions over Facts
Member since Oct 2009
144 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 6:35 pm to
Fantasy Value has no merit on player ranking, that stupid to even try.
What if a different league has different scoring system then those numbers are off.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59158 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

Yeah I guess I would laugh it off too if I had no answer for it.



Really? I really have to explain that FANTASY value and real value are different? That FANTASY
football is just a game and having great FANTASY scores is basically irrelevant? I really needed to explain that?

Please stay on the rant or the Saints board if your argument is how the highest FANTASY scorer is best player
Posted by maburu2
Member since Mar 2008
4715 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Manning: 2008 - 339 points
Manning: 2009 - 173 points
Manning: Total - 512 points

Brees: 2008 - 414 points
Brees: 2009 - 163 points
Brees: Total - 577 points

Well, in your little research right there, Manning has a higher "fantasy" value this year so far than Brees, and this season is the whole discussion. So I dont see how that backs up your claim.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57450 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

Well, in your little research right there, Manning has a higher "fantasy" value this year so far than Brees, and this season is the whole discussion. So I dont see how that backs up your claim.


Only having a 10 point difference playing against better defenses says alot.

Especially when you put that in the context of Brees scoring 65 more points last year.

Oh and by the way, to state the obvious point you are conveniently denying, fantasy points are derived from real stats.

Therefore, Brees is on the same level as Manning. Get over it.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59158 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

Brees scoring 65 more points last year.
quote:

fantasy points are derived from real stats.



First of all 65 more points is completely meaningless. Scoring for FANTASY Football varies widely from league to league. It is possible to pad stats. A QB on a team with frequent big leads may not have as many attempts and hence fewer yds, while a QB on a not a good team, that is in more close games may throw more.

Please go back to the rant
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57450 posts
Posted on 10/27/09 at 10:00 pm to
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Oh and by the way, to state the obvious point you are conveniently denying, fantasy points are derived from real stats.
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