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re: Report: Kyrie wants "very badly" to play for the Knicks

Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112331 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:17 pm to
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m not asking you to do any work besides comprehend an idea


"Hey there's a lower level than Kobe but I'm not going to provide any proof or evidence of someone being below that level and keeping the same level of stardom and I'm gonna expect you to just take my word that it would work the same for Kyrie even tho nothing proves that it would"

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First of all I never called you unintelligent. You were acting like it was lunacy for me to ask you conceptualize an idea.


You have heavily implied that I am too unintelligent to conceptialize your idea whenever you can't communicate your idea with evidence to back it up. If you have an opinion, please have some reason or evidence to back it up or just stop arguing it so hard.


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I'm not even asking you to agree with my opinion. I'm trying to get you to understand where my argument is coming from which apparently is useless. Ever since we've established that there is a threshold for immunity, I've chalked the rest up to difference of opinion.


You've said Kyrie has reached this line of immunity but you have given no reason or proof or similar example of someone of his stature keeping that level of stardom in a similar situation. So why would anyone agree with your opinion on this when you've constructed it so poorly without any research or back up except for one player example which CLEARLY doesn't fit the situation?

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Again. Reading comprehension. I never said that. Just because there's a flaw in the comparison doesn't mean they aren't comparable. Like I said, every single comparison ever has a flaw. Doesn't mean it's not useful.


Again you blame everyone else.

If you agree there is a massive flaw in that comparison than why use it alone? Why not come up with more examples? Why not create a solid connection between the argument your making and a solid level of evidence to back it up?

You are admitting the flaws but accepting the results absolutely any way. you only see what you want to see to fit your argument

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I'm not ignoring them. IVE OPENLY RECOGNIZED THE PARTS THAT DO NOT SUPPORT MY ARGUMENT MANY TIMES. I do not feel they out weigh the parts that do support my argument. You feel differently. It's a difference of opinion. Not a contradiction.


Yet you keep using the comparison absolutely. Give me more, do more, be better at this. Don't just say "everyone else can't read, I'm obviously the smartest person in the room and everyone else is too simple minded to grasp it"

Clearly there is something missing on your end. The world isn't against you, you just haven't properly conveyed your opinion with viable proof or situations outside of one that you yourself are admitting is not a good comparison.

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There's only been one person to argue this aspect and you didn't even argue it. The criteria has been and still is when was Kobe on a bad team. He's been on more than one bad team.


And how many bad teams have the Knicks had the past 10-20 years? Comparing the Knicks situation to the 2000 lakers is just obtuse.

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this one I'm only blaming you. Everybody else has come to understand it


Who are these imaginary people? Seemingly no one in this thread has backed you up.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46192 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:34 pm to
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"Hey there's a lower level than Kobe but I'm not going to provide any proof or evidence of someone being below that level and keeping the same level of stardom and I'm gonna expect you to just take my word that it would work the same for Kyrie even tho nothing proves that it would"


I've never asked you to take my word for it or agree with me about Kyrie being above the threshold.
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You have heavily implied that I am too unintelligent to conceptialize your idea

No I was letting you know you were refusing to do something that should happen in almost every argument.

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If you have an opinion, please have some reason or evidence to back it up or just stop arguing it so hard.

I chalked it up to difference of opinion and quit arguing it on like page fricking 4...

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So why would anyone agree with your opinion

Didn't ask anybody to

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except for one player example which CLEARLY doesn't fit the situation?


He does fit the situation. Not perfectly but he does fit.

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Again you blame everyone else.


There is zero blame on me for you putting words in my mouth.

For example:

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If you agree there is a massive flaw

I did not say this. It's hard to argue with someone who continually puts words in my mouth that I've never said or implied.

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If you agree there is a massive flaw in that comparison than why use it alone? Why not come up with more examples? Why not create a solid connection between the argument your making and a solid level of evidence to back it up?

Because there aren't that many examples of this happening that I can think of. Due to lack of evidence, it's purely speculation. Which I've said countless times in this thread, is useless to argue.

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You are admitting the flaws but accepting the results absolutely any way. you only see what you want to see to fit your argument

I think the results still apply. You may not. It's purely up to opinion.

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you just haven't properly conveyed your opinion with viable proof or situations outside of one that you yourself are admitting is not a good comparison.

Again never said this.

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And how many bad teams have the Knicks had the past 10-20 years? Comparing the Knicks situation to the 2000 lakers is just obtuse.


WTF? I don't even know where this came from

That's just completely fricking irrelevant. And again I never compared the Knicks to the 2000 Lakers.



This argument is useless and going nowhere because you refuse to attempt to understand. So with that I'm done.

There is a threshold. We've established that. Now whether Kyrie has reached it or not is purely based on opinion. I think he's reached it. You don't. I don't why we're still arguing when we came to that conclusion about 5 pages ago.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110880 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:43 pm to
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The argument isnt whether I communicated clearly or not.

It was certainly part of the conversation, you talked about it yourself multiple times.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110880 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Correct, it's not the crux of the argument.

It is, however, a mitigating factor, IMHO.
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Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112331 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:54 pm to
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That's just completely fricking irrelevant. And again I never compared the Knicks to the 2000 Lakers.


Yes you are. You are comparing the team that kobe played for to the team Kyrie wants to play for. What else would you call that?

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There is a threshold. We've established that. Now whether Kyrie has reached it or not is purely based on opinion. I think he's reached it. You don't. I don't why we're still arguing when we came to that conclusion about 5 pages ago


The threshold you have set is kobe. He is not on Kobes level, we both agree on that, so how do you feel that he has reached that threshold

If you think the threshold is lower than Kobes than tell me where the threshold is. Do your work.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 1:56 pm
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