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re: Rapoport reporting Saints and Adrian Peterson nearing deal
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:15 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:15 pm to wildtigercat93
The Saints have to go defense with their two 1st rd picks now.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:16 pm to JBeam
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Furthermore, aren't the saints trying to find someone to fill the role of Sproles in that offense?
If Lasco is healthy, he may be able to fill that role. We also have the draft....
We need someone to take the hightower role.
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It sounds like he went around a bunch of playoff contenders and they didn't want him. So his only landing spot is NOLA.
Saints have had a great offseason, and arguably have the best oline in football now. This is the NFL, and the Saints are absolutely a "playoff contender"
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:18 pm to JBeam
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The Saints have to go defense with their two 1st rd picks now.
If we sign him, how does it change anything about our draft strategy?
Or did you think we were gonna take a first round RB?
Saints have cap space. It's unlikely that we're signing many other FAs (and if we did, they would cost very little). It doesn't change much.
And let's wait to see if he actually signs and the STRUCTURE of the deal before being idiots
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:21 pm to Jcorye1
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What about a guy who is completely useless when one of the best QBs of this generation drops back to pass?
You mean like Mike Bell for the Saints in 2009? It's called playaction.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:25 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:The two patriots fans are tarding it up pretty bad in here......
He seemingly had NO market whatsoever so 3 million seems high
We have a ton of cap room, with not many other available players to spend it on. 3 million for a player only 2 years removed from leading the league in rushing is unbelievably cheap for a team with available cap pace.
I honestly thought more from you
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:29 pm to lsupride87
If we resigned Hightower for $1.2 million, no one would bat an eye.
But Ian throws out $3m without any other details, and y'all act like idiots with zero understanding? of the NFL salary cap.
For all we know, it could be majority incentive based, or it could be contingent on him making the roster giving the saints until the end of preseason to evaluate him
But Ian throws out $3m without any other details, and y'all act like idiots with zero understanding? of the NFL salary cap.
For all we know, it could be majority incentive based, or it could be contingent on him making the roster giving the saints until the end of preseason to evaluate him
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:33 pm to TigerBait1127
I realize it's all media buzz. But I don't think it's that out there for the saints to consider one of the RB's that are on the table. That being said, I realize that the saints have other issues on the defensive side to address.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:34 pm to JBeam
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But I don't think it's that out there for the saints to consider one of the RB's that are on the table. That being said, I realize that the saints have other issues on the defensive side to address.
And I could see it in the 2nd round at the earliest.
LF7 will be long gone by 11, and McCaffery will be long gone by 32. We traded Cooks to improve the defense, so the value would have to be incredible.
And picking up Peterson wouldn't change that outlook imo.
We've added at least 2 new starters on defense along with depth at LB and S. We need a CB#1 or 2 across from Breaux, and we need a pass rusher. We also potentially get 4 starters back from injury last year.
We've done a pretty good job of acquiring young talent after gutting the roster. Get this team a DE at 11, and it doesn't have many gaping holes.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:37 pm to TigerBait1127
Best defensive player with the first 3 picks.
I'm fricking sick of having a no talent arse clown defense.
I'm fricking sick of having a no talent arse clown defense.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:39 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Best defensive player with the first 3 picks.
If someone like Michael Thomas (value wise) is available in the 2nd, you always pull the difference.
It already should be the best front 7 we've had in a long, long time, and there's no way we can lose 8 corners to injury again this year (who knows with our medical staff)
Rankins, Breaux, Williams, Swann, Kikaha, Vaccaro,and Ellerbe all missed substantial time last season.
While I'm holding my breath on Ellerbe and Kikaha, the additions of Okafor, Klein, and Bush should provide some much needed depth at our biggest positions of need.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:41 pm to TigerBait1127
Please let NOLA draft Joe Mixon. That way I can hear Moscona slowly backtrack from his comments for the last few months.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:41 pm to CelticDog
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Saints
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championship run
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:41 pm to TigerBait1127
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Saints have had a great offseason, and arguably have the best oline in football now. This is the NFL, and the Saints are absolutely a "playoff contender"
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:44 pm to bamabenny
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The Cowboys lost 2 starters. Titans could push for it
Saints added Warford to pair with Strief, Unger, Amrstead, and Peat. That's as strong as anyoneml
Really isn't an outlandish statement. They were pretty good last year with Armstead hurt and Evans at RG at 90 years old
From ESPN last year LINK
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>The Saints are dead last in pressure allowed, according to ESPN Stats & Info charting, and they are fifth in adjusted sack rate. Sure, part of the reason the Saints do so well in pass-blocking metrics is that Drew Brees is so good at avoiding sacks and doesn't run into his own pressure. But that doesn't explain why the Saints lead the league in adjusted line yards, or why they've had runners stuffed for a loss or no gain only 14 percent of the time. New Orleans is even tied for the fewest number of penalties by offensive linemen (24).
And that's with the best one, our franchise LT, injured for most of the year. We filled our only weakness on it.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:46 pm to TigerBait1127
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If someone like Michael Thomas (value wise) is available in the 2nd, you always pull the difference.
It already should be the best front 7 we've had in a long, long time, and there's no way we can lose 8 corners to injury again this year (who knows with our medical staff)
Rankins, Breaux, Williams, Swann, Kikaha, Vaccaro,and Ellerbe all missed substantial time last season.
While I'm holding my breath on Ellerbe and Kikaha, the additions of Okafor, Klein, and Bush should provide some much needed depth at our biggest positions of need.
Rookie pay scale, draft the best defensive players to set up for the future. Drew will score points.
A small part of me does wish we could somehow get OJ Howard, but we cannot waste #11 on offense I don't think. Drew would let that kid eat.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:47 pm to Jcorye1
It isn't a large contract. It's around the same amount of money as the Patriots are paying Rex Burkhead and Mike Gillislee. It's going to be about the 25th ranked contract by average annual value for an NFL rb. It is a perfectly reasonable low risk type of contract to give someone like Peterson. Stop being ridiculous and get your head out of your arse. You can't be thinking this through and are just criticizing to criticize to act like a $3m contract is some huge deal in NFL terms.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:54 pm to Peazey
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It's around the same amount of money as the Patriots are paying Rex Burkhead and Mike Gillislee
For perspective, Burkhead and Gillislee got higher salaries for a Pats RB in a decade
Btw I'm not saying it's a bad contract or anything really, there not enough real info yet and he hasn't even signed it yet. I was just suprised it was that high given how quiet his market was
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:01 pm to wildtigercat93
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. I was just suprised it was that high given how quiet his market was
I mean he supposedly came out asking for $8 million too. Not to sure how he approached this
I wanted the saints to go after Rex
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:11 pm to TigerBait1127
Pretty crowded backfield now, especially since they locked up James White. There were some Dion Lewis trade rumors thrown in that Malcolm Butler talk but I don't think it was very legit.
I love love love Gilesslee
And his market was cold for a lot of factors, mostly injury and asking price, usually vets like that wait until camp to sign anywhere. And it's still not official so it could be another leverage pull by his agent for all we know
I love love love Gilesslee
And his market was cold for a lot of factors, mostly injury and asking price, usually vets like that wait until camp to sign anywhere. And it's still not official so it could be another leverage pull by his agent for all we know
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:14 pm to wildtigercat93
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There were some Dion Lewis trade rumors thrown in that Malcolm Butler talk but I don't think it was very legit.
Yea, that had me pretty ?excited
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And his market was cold for a lot of factors, mostly injury and asking price, usually vets like that wait until camp to sign anywhere. And it's still not official so it could be another leverage pull by his agent for all we know
I agree. We've been far too reasonable in FA this year, actually filling the biggest needs and not overpaying.
Even if it is $3 million, I don't mind the $2 million hail mary over the price of any vet backup. I highly doubt it would have a high guaranteed portion though.
Personally, I see his lack of carries the past 3 years as more of a positive than a negative, even with the knee injury last year.
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For perspective, Burkhead and Gillislee got higher salaries for a Pats RB in a decade
Salary cap keeps going up substantially
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 4:17 pm
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