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re: Question regarding the black power fist at NFL games today
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:25 am to lsupride87
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:25 am to lsupride87
The problem is you're making up an analogy that isn't realistic.
I've never known someone to use the white power salute to mean anything other than white supremacy(still not sure why you brought up David Duke to that point...), so you're creating an analogy on something we've never seen before. That is why it actually would be an issue, because it was be difficult, darn near impossible to believe that was the white player's actual intent.
I've never known someone to use the white power salute to mean anything other than white supremacy(still not sure why you brought up David Duke to that point...), so you're creating an analogy on something we've never seen before. That is why it actually would be an issue, because it was be difficult, darn near impossible to believe that was the white player's actual intent.
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:28 am to shel311
quote:David Duke was in the kkk, used white power salutes, and still claims he is not for white supremacy and hate
(still not sure why you brought up David Duke to that point...), so you're creating an analogy on something we've neve
How do you not understand why I brought him up?
I specifically found an example for youPosted on 9/12/16 at 11:29 am to lsupride87
quote:You found and posted an example of him using the white power salute?
How do you not understand why I brought him up? I specifically found an example for you
I missed that, and fwiw, I specifically asked you if he was using the white power salute. Maybe you previously replied and answered but if so, I missed it.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:02 pm to PrimeTime Money
You're doubting my ability to do so. You're smart. Google. Don't insult my intelligence.
One thing our laws NEVER did is omit spirit of the law or biases from its interpretation or the from interpretation of those that preside of it
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:14 pm to Goyas
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Don't insult my intelligence.
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or the from interpretation of those that preside of it
Actually you seem to be insulting it on your own quite well.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:14 pm to AwesomeSauce
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rop the frickin empirical BS, the MF'n emperor is black. You point to historical shite that no one will argue with, but then you lump all white people together like empirical shite in the past hasn't caused transgressions against most races, ethnicities, and religions.
How can I deny data? How can I deny that black patients are prescribed pain meds at a significantly less rate than white patients? And that there is likely a historical tie to the perception that black slaves felt less pain than others. I'm reading an old civil war book about black soldiers...and the same med problems / stereotypes about black people exist and manifest today .
How can I deny that black TODDLERS get punished and suspended more severely than white toddlers.
How can I deny that banks give out less loans and higher interest rates to black applicants? Especially when banks have a history of STIFLING BLACK ECONOMIC PROGRESS?
I could literally go on and on, and this is factual stuff. And this continues to this day. That is disenfranchisement within equality.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:14 pm to AwesomeSauce
First of all, please don't try to use Barack Obama as an excuse why Black people have finally been accepted and assimilated. If that's the the case it still took wayyyy too long, but that is the argument that is asinine. Barack Obama was elected President because he was the best of the worst. Let's be honest, in 2008, there was no way any Republican would win office after the Bush Administration. The new generation of voters, reviled everything that party stood for at the time. It's balancing out now, but it was nowhere near close then, and Democrats, as progressive as they try to portray themselves to be, could not fathom a female president at that time. I was on LSU's campus the night Obama was elected President and as a Black man, we were not welcomed or felt a new dawn had come, but felt like the Old South was bound to rise again any day now. There was plenty of talk about how he should be hung, so don't act like he's the measuring stick for our cultural acceptance.
How about I work everyday in a public service job, being called the n word daily, by the same people I'm trying to help. I'm helping you but I'm less than you. How about being called the n word by a 3 or 4 year old little white girl. She wasn't just repeating, but was taught to understand what the word meant, and when to use it, again in a situation where I'm working as a teacher's helper to further kids. In a place where, most of the kids were white but most of the staff was black, who else was that guided toward? How about having no criminal record, a great gpa, good job experience and no negative remarks from any former employers, but not being hired to jobs and then testing the theory that it was because I was black and changing my race on the application from Black to Decide Not to Answer and getting calls to the same places, who wouldn't call when I stated my race.
I'm still young and yet, I'm discriminated all the time, what's sad is, I got to a point where I believed that was ok, it was normal, cause that's just the world I live in, but why? If the nation I live in says I should not have to go through that? Why not say anything? Why not stand against it?
I never said all white people are racist, that's very untrue, I'm also not of the belief that all black people aren't racist. But if I'm skeptical of a white man, based on history, I have every reason to be? What exactly is any white man's reasoning based on history, to hate or despise a black man? What was it then and what is it now?
How about I work everyday in a public service job, being called the n word daily, by the same people I'm trying to help. I'm helping you but I'm less than you. How about being called the n word by a 3 or 4 year old little white girl. She wasn't just repeating, but was taught to understand what the word meant, and when to use it, again in a situation where I'm working as a teacher's helper to further kids. In a place where, most of the kids were white but most of the staff was black, who else was that guided toward? How about having no criminal record, a great gpa, good job experience and no negative remarks from any former employers, but not being hired to jobs and then testing the theory that it was because I was black and changing my race on the application from Black to Decide Not to Answer and getting calls to the same places, who wouldn't call when I stated my race.
I'm still young and yet, I'm discriminated all the time, what's sad is, I got to a point where I believed that was ok, it was normal, cause that's just the world I live in, but why? If the nation I live in says I should not have to go through that? Why not say anything? Why not stand against it?
I never said all white people are racist, that's very untrue, I'm also not of the belief that all black people aren't racist. But if I'm skeptical of a white man, based on history, I have every reason to be? What exactly is any white man's reasoning based on history, to hate or despise a black man? What was it then and what is it now?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:17 pm to LABred08
you people's lives suck because you suck . . . and despite efforts to give you EVERY advantage, you still suck so hard that you actually prefer it over any form of advancement . . . YOU PEOPLE OPPRESS YOURSELVES
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:19 pm to Goyas
quote:Yes I am doubting your ability. Name 3 ways that black people are disenfranchised today. Today meaning in 2016.
You're doubting my ability to do so. You're smart. Google. Don't insult my intelligence.
Just 3. With your vast knowledge, it shouldn't take more than two minutes to type out 3 systemic examples.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:20 pm to SabiDojo
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I don't necessarily think guys like Marcus Peters or Colin Kaepernick hate white people or condone violence against white people. What I do think is that they are just ignorant to history, social policy, and, most importantly, human nature. It's why guys like Kaepernick protest against black oppression yet wear a Fidel Castro t-shirt to an interview. Guys like Peters and Kaepernick are just hurt and aimless, so they are easily persuaded by movements they do not understand.
Agree with this.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:32 pm to PrimeTime Money
The whole "oppressed" angle just boggles my mind in 2016. Yes, black people were once very oppressed. Not that long ago, either.
But today? Nah. I had neighbors in Greece who were refugees from Albania. Nicest folks in the world, and they were positively shite on every single day by Greeks. They looked my family, as black Americans, as insanely lucky, and would have traded places in a heartbeat.
There is no way in hell I'm going to cavalierly throw around the phrase "oppressed," and pretend that I'm a victim.
But today? Nah. I had neighbors in Greece who were refugees from Albania. Nicest folks in the world, and they were positively shite on every single day by Greeks. They looked my family, as black Americans, as insanely lucky, and would have traded places in a heartbeat.
There is no way in hell I'm going to cavalierly throw around the phrase "oppressed," and pretend that I'm a victim.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:36 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Your just a boring Uncle Tom like Tim Duncan
There is no way in hell I'm going to cavalierly throw around the phrase "oppressed," and pretend that I'm a victim.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:40 pm to lsupride87
Is Timmy dark enough to warrant Uncle Tom status? Been awhile since I cracked open the Racial Rulebook
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:44 pm to Goyas
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You're doubting my ability to do so. You're smart. Google. Don't insult my intelligence.
I knew you wouldn't have any tangible evidence of the vague accusations of modern oppression you spew.
Troll on
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:45 pm to hashtag
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what about you, personally?
what about Colin Kaepernick personally? He's the idiot who started all of this. Based on his upbringing, I'd venture to guess he's never personally been a victim of discrimination either.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:45 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Agreed.
And I'm not saying there isn't any discrimination anymore. There will always be prejudiced people... it's just a fact of life. Everybody probably has a story of something that happened once in their lives.
But to act like it's the 1940's is also wrong.
And I'm not saying there isn't any discrimination anymore. There will always be prejudiced people... it's just a fact of life. Everybody probably has a story of something that happened once in their lives.
But to act like it's the 1940's is also wrong.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:49 pm to corndeaux
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How many knocking the players today were singing Ali's praises this summer for his courage in protest after he passed away?
Mad respect to the guys disparaging both Ali then and these guys now. At least you're guided by consistent misanthropy
a lot of people from his generation hated Ali until the day he died.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:51 pm to LABred08
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Do you realize the national anthem is edited, we only sing the first verse. We don't include its outlook on slaves who wanted so badly to be free they fled. That mindset that we were wrong, traitorous for fleeing and joining the British if promised freedom, rather that to be owned, beaten, killed, made to work for profit never seen.
there are many theories as to what that verse meant. of course you accept the one that fits your narrative. and regardless, that verse is not in the national anthem, and that was written in 1812. I hate when people take societal norms of one time period and apply them to today
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:52 pm to lsufball19
This country was founded on protest. I guess its fine to throw tea in a harbor but not to protest a flag that was found because crazy bastards defied their country and threw tea in a harbor.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:55 pm to dcrews
The frick do you mean that culture?
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