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Playing the game under protest
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:13 pm
If the Braves come back to win, but the protest is upheld and the call reversed do they still replay the game from the point of the protest?
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Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:14 pm to LSUsmartass
I believe so.
Eta: but I'm usually wrong.
Eta: but I'm usually wrong.
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:14 pm to LSUsmartass
Don't think so. It would be moot.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:14 pm to LSUsmartass
I'm sure they would drop their protest.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:14 pm to 9Fiddy
That would be some unbelievable shite
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:15 pm to 9Fiddy
Could you just drop the protest? I wonder
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:15 pm to LSUsmartass
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If the Braves come back to win, but the protest is upheld and the call reversed do they still replay the game from the point of the protest?
No, if Braves win it won't matter. The protest will not work. So don't count on that.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:15 pm to DollaChoppa
If you can, then that would make the most sense.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:16 pm to DollaChoppa
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Could you just drop the protest? I wonder
Yes, but it doesn't matter anyways. I don't know how MLB rules work in playoffs, but most "tourney" rules in Amateur Baseball wouldn't continue game until protest is ruled upon.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:17 pm to Bho
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The protest will not work.
Call needed to be made right away, it was made just before the ball dropped...therefore a rule was not applied the right way
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:19 pm to LSUsmartass
It's a longshot and the 1 game WC is Selig's baby. I give it a 10% shot of working at best
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:19 pm to LSUsmartass
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Call needed to be made right away
No it doesn't. Also you can't protest a judgement call.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:20 pm to Bho
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No it doesn't. Also you can't protest a judgement call.
lol, they were reading straight from the rule book...call needs to be made right away for the benefit of the umpires
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:22 pm to Bho
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4.19 PROTESTING GAMES. Each league shall adopt rules governing procedure for protesting a game, when a manager claims that an umpire?s decision is in violation of these rules. No protest shall ever be permitted on judgment decisions by the umpire. In all protested games, the decision of the League President shall be final. Even if it is held that the protested decision violated the rules, no replay of the game will be ordered unless in the opinion of the League President the violation adversely affected the protesting team?s chances of winning the game. Rule 4.19 Comment: Whenever a manager protests a game because of alleged misapplication of the rules the protest will not be recognized unless the umpires are notified at the time the play under protest occurs and before the next pitch, play or attempted play. A protest arising on a game-ending play may be filed until 12 noon the following day with the league office.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:22 pm to LSUsmartass
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Call needed to be made right away, it was made just before the ball dropped...therefore a rule was not applied the right way
The wrong call was made, but it was a judgement call. With regard to how late it was called had no impact on the play since both runners advanced. Whether he made the call immediately or late the batter was still called out.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:22 pm to LSUsmartass
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An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.
When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare ?Infield Fly? for the benefit of the runners. If the ball is near the baselines, the umpire shall declare ?Infield Fly, if Fair.?
The ball is alive and runners may advance at the risk of the ball being caught, or retouch and advance after the ball is touched, the same as on any fly ball. If the hit becomes a foul ball, it is treated the same as any foul.
If a declared Infield Fly is allowed to fall untouched to the ground, and bounces foul before passing first or third base, it is a foul ball. If a declared Infield Fly falls untouched to the ground outside the baseline, and bounces fair before passing first or third base, it is an Infield Fly.
Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder?not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire?s judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire?s judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.
When an infield fly rule is called, runners may advance at their own risk. If on an infield fly rule, the infielder intentionally drops a fair ball, the ball remains in play despite the provisions of Rule 6.05 (L). The infield fly rule takes precedence.
That's straight from the MLB rulebook. So once it was apparent to the umpire.......he made the call. It doesn't have to be made right off of the bat.
ETA:FWIW, it was a bad call IMO, but the rule book is not in your favor here.
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:24 pm to TigerintheNO
Not judgement. He didn't follow the rule application.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:24 pm to Bho
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When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly,
So you think it took until the ball was 10 feet from hitting the ground for it to be apparent? The damn thing had 5 seconds of flight time before he threw his arm up.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:25 pm to SBC
So he waited until after the guy missed it for it to be apparent. Okay.
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:26 pm to LSUsmartass
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So you think it took until the ball was 10 feet from hitting the ground for it to be apparent? The damn thing had 5 seconds of flight time before he threw his arm up.
Quit being a Barves(yeah on purpose) homer. I actually want the Braves to beat the shite out of StL, but I'm telling you, it's not going to change. It shouldn't have been called, but in his judgement it was an infield fly and the rule book supports his judgement, right or wrong.
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